View Full Version : Who else is in love w/ " Isle of the Dead"?
michelle2006
November 27th, 2005, 06:33 PM
:headphone I am listening to the 21 miniutes long version of "Isle of the dead". Someone said that this could be Michelle's music for her LP earlier, like in AUgust or September. The only confirmation that we have is the Tony Wheeler confirmed the LP is a Rach piece, like this.
I dunno, but I would just be ecstatic if this indeed was her music, you can even pick out the best part and where she should place that COE spiral. I love it. It is Michelle! It has masterpiece written all over it. It takes me back to the days of Frank and Lori....imagine her emoting to this......:bow
I love it, and I would be delighted if she is using this. Just wish we had some confirmation. :banghead
Katie
November 27th, 2005, 06:50 PM
Yes, me too! I love it love it love it! The music is perfrect. So passionate, and really dramatic. I can't wait to see it.
Keeping fingers crossed!
:bow :bow :bow
LyraKwangelica
November 27th, 2005, 07:02 PM
Check back on one of my posts. Sometime in August I made the suggestion for Michelle to skate to this piece, and not too many people paid much attention, and then out of nowhere someone makes the suggestion that Michelle is INDEED skating to this music. I was stunned. I made a lot of posts on this piece of music, which has been an obsession of mine for a long time. Read some of my former posts! :silly
edenlover
November 27th, 2005, 08:29 PM
I am. Already grave three paragraphs of reason in some other post last week, just don't remember where.
kwancierto de aranjuez
November 27th, 2005, 11:02 PM
I was listening to it on the drive back from Los Angeles (to S.F. [a 7 hour snoozefest of nothing but farmland :-( ]) and it is an interesting piece.
I don't love it but it was definitely intriguing. I also listened to the long version and I found it hard to choreograph. It is reminiscent of Miraculous Mandarin to me. It will be amazing what TT, MK and the team comes up with if they use it as the music.
Arch
November 28th, 2005, 02:21 AM
I love the music and am sure MK can do wonders with it. At this point I don't think good music matters, though. What matters is that you're in "good standing" with the ISU by participating in all their events and that you can do Biellmann after Bielmann after Biellmann; then you're annointed the Olympic Gold Medalist regardless of how technically sloppy and how choreographically ugly you skate.
Katty52
November 28th, 2005, 10:00 AM
I love the music and am sure MK can do wonders with it. At this point I don't think good music matters, though. What matters is that you're in "good standing" with the ISU by participating in all their events and that you can do Biellmann after Bielmann after Biellmann; then you're annointed the Olympic Gold Medalist regardless of how technically sloppy and how choreographically ugly you skate.
I am with you on the Biellmann. You would think that the judges could open up their eyes and mind and say hey is this all this skater can do.
Yes, I love the music and have listened to it a number of times since it was thought it would be Michelle's music. I even looked up the painting and I love it also.
Krista
November 28th, 2005, 10:07 AM
Yeah I love this piece of music :)
lavender
November 28th, 2005, 11:51 AM
Anyone have a link? I heard it once and I love it. I'm in the mood to listen to it again.
kwantessence
November 28th, 2005, 12:02 PM
:headphone I am listening to the 21 miniutes long version of "Isle of the dead". Someone said that this could be Michelle's music for her LP earlier, like in AUgust or September. The only confirmation that we have is the Tony Wheeler confirmed the LP is a Rach piece, like this.
I dunno, but I would just be ecstatic if this indeed was her music, you can even pick out the best part and where she should place that COE spiral. I love it. It is Michelle! It has masterpiece written all over it. It takes me back to the days of Frank and Lori....imagine her emoting to this......:bow
I love it, and I would be delighted if she is using this. Just wish we had some confirmation. :banghead
I hope this rumour is true because the music is wonderfull. It has so many dimensions and texture to it, that a skater of Michelle's interpretive skills could truly shine.
aldreen
November 28th, 2005, 12:43 PM
I love the music and am sure MK can do wonders with it. At this point I don't think good music matters, though. What matters is that you're in "good standing" with the ISU by participating in all their events and that you can do Biellmann after Bielmann after Biellmann; then you're annointed the Olympic Gold Medalist regardless of how technically sloppy and how choreographically ugly you skate.
Yup, music is great (intense and moving, something very fit for a Michelle Kwan program), but obviously, what is said is true: music doesn't count anymore these days. Just fill your program with point-racking moves and you're off to a medal-winning performance!
lavender
November 28th, 2005, 01:09 PM
Yup, music is great (intense and moving, something very fit for a Michelle Kwan program), but obviously, what is said is true: music doesn't count anymore these days. Just fill your program with point-racking moves and you're off to a medal-winning performance!
It's unfortunate but I totally agree.
mzheng
November 28th, 2005, 02:07 PM
Add me as the one love the piece of music.
Yeah. "It's a game of points." -- Sasha Cohen at TEB interview.
serendipity
November 28th, 2005, 11:06 PM
it's sad that FS has turned into a "game of points" -- can i just watch some quality figure skating? :kaocry: if i want points, i'll go watch basketball or football.
*sigh* this sport has really changed...
ETA: forgot to say, I love this piece of music too. I really hope Michelle skates to it. If not, still glad to learn about this piece.
MKsmiral
November 28th, 2005, 11:37 PM
I totally agree, Michelle2006. I think I wrote this in another thread, but the more I listen to this music, the more I love it. It has so many great highs and lows. Some parts almost have a Lyra feel and some remind me of TRV. I really like the slow part which starts around the 5/6 min. mark and love the emotional section which starts at the 12 min. mark - it literally gives me goosebumps.
This music is so Michelle - I really hope this rumor is true.
:angel
michelle2006
December 3rd, 2005, 10:22 PM
Some parts almost have a Lyra feel and some remind me of TRV.
Add a little bit of Spartacus to the list also, its truely something. I hope the rumor is true as well....I really do, but unfortunetly, we wont find out until Nationals, thats what it looks like right now.
Tynant
December 4th, 2005, 08:49 PM
It's kind of a depressing title for the Olympics
LyraKwangelica
December 4th, 2005, 09:25 PM
This music, as with most music, is what you make of it. The painter who painted "The Isle of the Dead," Arnold Boecklin, was commissioned by a woman who had lost a loved one to paint a painting that would comfort her. What he came up with, was his greatest work and lifetime obsession. I encourage all of you to look it up and take a peek. Boecklin did not believe in giving his work titles, for it gave the viewer a predisposition to the work, he believed, and that the viewer should draw upon their own emotional experiences to form an opinion. He did draw upon the greek myth of the isle of the dead and the still river styx, as well as the oarsman, Charon, who would carry you to the afterlife. The painting is at times serene, peaceful, sorrowful, and even frightening. However it leaves you with the feeling that death is not the end, but merely a beginning. Rachmaninoff captured the same effect in his symphonic poem, but gave it his own interpretation. The unusual 5/8 tempo in the beginning can give you the uneasy pace of the oars on the rowboat, and the harmony gives you the tempo of the waves of the water, complete stillness. At times the piece is romantic, depressing, and peaceful. Imagine for one moment if you can, that you are being carried to the afterlilfe on a boat and are appoaching a craggy isle, only partially covered in light, the rest is bathed in complete darkness, a mystery to your eyes. Would you be confronted by every single memory and emotion and earthly pleasure and pain you have ever felt in your life? Would you miss anyone? Would you be angry? Would you despair? In the end, death is inevitable, but not the end. Imagine that.
synnabun
December 5th, 2005, 12:03 AM
This music, as with most music, is what you make of it. The painter who painted "The Isle of the Dead," Arnold Boecklin, was commissioned by a woman who had lost a loved one to paint a painting that would comfort her. What he came up with, was his greatest work and lifetime obsession. I encourage all of you to look it up and take a peek. Boecklin did not believe in giving his work titles, for it gave the viewer a predisposition to the work, he believed, and that the viewer should draw upon their own emotional experiences to form an opinion. He did draw upon the greek myth of the isle of the dead and the still river styx, as well as the oarsman, Charon, who would carry you to the afterlife. The painting is at times serene, peaceful, sorrowful, and even frightening. However it leaves you with the feeling that death is not the end, but merely a beginning. Rachmaninoff captured the same effect in his symphonic poem, but gave it his own interpretation. The unusual 5/8 tempo in the beginning can give you the uneasy pace of the oars on the rowboat, and the harmony gives you the tempo of the waves of the water, complete stillness. At times the piece is romantic, depressing, and peaceful. Imagine for one moment if you can, that you are being carried to the afterlilfe on a boat and are appoaching a craggy isle, only partially covered in light, the rest is bathed in complete darkness, a mystery to your eyes. Would you be confronted by every single memory and emotion and earthly pleasure and pain you have ever felt in your life? Would you miss anyone? Would you be angry? Would you despair? In the end, death is inevitable, but not the end. Imagine that.
Brilliantly said... is this of your own composition or from somewhere else? I love the insight.
LyraKwangelica
December 5th, 2005, 12:34 AM
HAHA, that one came from my head. I wanted people to get a feel for the story behind the music so that they could better understand it. People CAN have a predisposition to art, and even music. I'm a former music major, believe it or not, and "Isle of the Dead" was the topic of my final term paper in my composition class. I did a major study on it, and it has been my obsession for quite some time. Although, breaking it down all the time can take away the magic of hearing it for the first time. So to keep fresh I limit how much I listen to the music. One should never abuse their ear drums.
michelle2006
December 5th, 2005, 06:35 PM
Lyra, thankyou, that was georgeous, and more poetic than anything that I have done in my enlish class- ever. It is a feeling in that music that you can't quite....sort of like an unfulfilled love that you can meet in the after life, but you'll lose all you ever had in the real life. Its very deep, stunning, and hits you hard.
WOW! I was having my fantasy while reading your post, of the NBC announcers describing the piece b/f her LP in TUrino.....like they did Lyra and Shez......
WOW!
michelle2006
December 25th, 2005, 08:31 PM
bumping- i am getting kinda impatient with the LP music...
LyraKwangelica
December 27th, 2005, 12:52 AM
HAHA, perhaps she will suprise us. Perhaps it isn't Isle of the Dead. Perhaps she is just toying with our minds. Perhaps she is going to skate to Britney Spears, "Oops, I did it again." Wait, that song would have irony if she should lose, lol. Let's hope for Rachmaninoff. I mentioned in a different forum that Irina's music and choreography are uninventive, uninspiring, and far from resplendant. Isle of the Dead is a gold medal winning piece of music, and giving that Tarasova is choreographing it.........well, I don't have to say anything. If she can do for Michelle with what she did for Shizuka, circa 2004, we don't have to worry.
lillyfly
December 27th, 2005, 01:10 AM
I love Arnold Boecklin paintings and "The Isle of the Dead in particular.
LyraKwangelica - Great comments.
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