official depot for new season program announcements

[berthesghost]

let's collect all the info here as it comes out as a one stop shopping for skater's program info:

So far:

Klimkin: Sp to R-K, LP to Matrix revolution, choreo by Petrkov (sp?)

Linderman: Sp to Robot ST by LA Miller, keeping last year's LP.

Tim G: Sp to sing sing sing, Lp to night on bald mt. Choreo by TT

Shizuka A: choreo by TT to classical pieces.

Mk: rumored to be choreo by TT

edited to add:

that's right. S&Z Sp is by Lori N. LP by LA Miller IIRC.

Miki A choreo by David Wilson.

edited again to add:
from Carolina's new site www.carolina-kostner.it/E-index2.htm (http://www.carolina-kostner.it/E-index2.htm)
" Kurt Browning will choreograph her long program, Megan Smith her short program! "

LP is winter from 4 seasons

[skatingfan5]

Shen & Zhao: SP: Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini by Rachmaninov; LP: Madame Butterfly

Mao Asada: SP: Snow Dance; LP: Romeo & Juliet

Ilia Klimkin (rumor): SP: Rimsky-Korsakov piece; LP: Matrix Revolutions

[fdevine]

OH Shen and Zhao's music! Can't wait. This is their their time for Olympic Gold. I want it for them almost as strongly as for Michelle.

[aaronts]

well, if S&Z perform to those pieces at their best, it's hard to see them not winning gold. i mean, talk about talent AND heart~

[Krista]

I agree aaronts :)

[berthesghost]

shame on you a, hijacking my thread to coo over S&Z. You know my thoughts on this: a non-Russian Oly champ is like a female President, it's not that it couldn't or shouldn't happen, I'm just too pessimistic/realistic to believe either will happen in my life time. Dull&Duller for gold, mark my words.

Now, all eyes back to Jack!!!!! There is more program/choreo info floating around the web, but it's about Chinese men and lower tier US pairs, i.e people I have to rack my brain and still can't recall even though I've seen them skate.

[mzheng]

who are Dull&Duller ?
Do you mean a non Rusian pair ogm?

[berthesghost]

Dull&Duller = current and two time world champs, the Russian Federation's cure for insomnia.

[aaronts]

ok, what was that comment you made about them BG, the one about them skating to 40s harlem music & 50s NY gang themes? it was so funny......i laughed for days.

i agree. they've improved, but there is still this boring quality to them. i miss the days of 4 years ago where several of the top pairs teams were capable of great things. this team seems to go thru the motions & all but....yeah, i have nothing more to add. dull says it best~

[lavender]

Dull&Duller = current and two time world champs, the Russian Federation's cure for insomnia.

Must you have me laughing so hard in the morning.:lol

Unfortunately I agree with you again.

[missmarysgarden]

I'm with you all on this one. I don't think there is much that can be done with D&D - they just seem to have terminally depressive personalities.

And as far has who do I most want to win OGM? it's ALMOST a toss-up. I think S&Z are as spectacular in their own arena as Michelle is in hers - and they emanate the same excitement, involvement and courage in their programs. I don't think I could bear to see D&D placed over them if they skate well. I hope they blow the top off the arena!

[candygirl559]

If Michelle is going to have TT choreograph her programs, the other ladies had better watch out.

I'm also on the S&Z bandwagon and would love to see them win the Olympics in 2006.

[Eeyora]

I( also agree there is nothing impressive or interesting watching T/M. They do absolutely nothing for me. Shen and Zhao on the other hand are exciting, breathtaking and they move me to tears. I hope they take home the OGM.

[kwancierto de aranjuez]

Dullmianina's fall in Skate America will surface in the Olympics as the feel good fluff of the Olympics to award Dullmianina & Dullinin the gold over Shen & Zhao. They will most certainly play that fluff up as much as Irina's struggles with health.

[EigthAv]

..............I hope I am spelling his name correctly and if not,thanks in advance for a correction......... Obertas/Slavnov are my favourites in current ISU pairs.They are still a work in progress,so a big upset for the Olympic gold is probably a huge longshot.I also like Shen & Zhao and the Zhang-Zhangs.Especially the Zhangs.Thanks for all the programme updates! I will probe around a bit and see if I can add some programme info to the stew.................Berthe,what I wouldn't give to see a now days,older,more mature Shelby Lyons............who didn't hang it up and continued to advance and with a dynamite male partner tangling with the new ISU pairs cream.There was a time when I thought by now Lyons and then Little Sister Steigler would be the toast of the ISU pairs town by now.

[Eeyora]

I agree Kwancierto Get ready for the fluff! However I expect to hear about Shen and Zhao's dumplings and one family bicycle as well.

[Cole50]

Johnny Wier:
SP - "The Swan" by Saint-Saens
LP - "Liebestraum" by Frank Liszt

[probativev]

Johnny "Weird"???

[Cole50]

Honest to goodness...it was a mistake.

I will go edit it out now.

[Krista]

LOL:rollin

[Cole50]

i tried to edit it, but stupid ezboard is being so fickle and will not keep me logged in. Anyway, all of you know what I meant. ;)

[kwanluv]

I'll try to edit it Cole...LOLOLOL

[iloveskating]

Johnny Wier:
SP - "The Swan" by Saint-Saens
LP - "Liebestraum" by Frank LisztIs this for real, or a joke?

[tongueincheek]

Cole50 has given us good information on Johnny's music, it's for real. :) See here (http://www.kataniye.com/johnny_weir/news.htm) for a message from Weir about his music.

[iloveskating]

Thanks for the link. I guess it would be a good idea for people to post a link when they post the news. I wasn't questioning Cole per se, because I know she's reliable. For some reason I thought maybe she was joking, I guess due to the "Johnny Weird" comments and the fact that these are not typically male skater selections. No offense intended Cole!

These are very tried and true pieces, probably overused, but I'm sure Johnny will pull new life from them, as he always does.

[Crizzy]

Sorry off topic. TongueinCheek is that Gerard Butler??

If it is YUMMY!

[tongueincheek]

Yep, Crizzy, it is. He doesn't know it yet, but we're engaged to be married. ;)

[Crizzy]

Yeah, you might be engaged to be married but you know which "tart" he dreams about. hehe:b

[berthesghost]

" and the fact that these are not typically male skater selections."

Now you must be the one joking! Valse triste, Dr. Zhivago, Rhondo, Otonal....Johnny always skates to "girl" music.

[LipinskiForPresident]

What is "girl music"? I once played bass guitar in a band and we did a few interpretations of songs originally wriiten by or written for female vocalists..........in what most of you would call a "redneck bar". No one called us cissies.I worked up my own improv interpretation of the 4 Non Blondes hit "What's Up/What's Going On" for another group I worked with,in a "redneck roadhouse". It quickly became one our most requested numbers,lace didn't suddenly appear on my drawers and no one wondered about my ............ummmmmmm romantic hobbies.I thought music was the universal language.I think Weir is cool...... but some folks do say I'm weird.Berthe,just wondering.The sport/performance artform is a bit bizarre and I'm still learning things. Sometimes it seems like raw bone c & w artists have more artistic freedom than figure skaters.Now if you ask me,that is weird.

[Vinluvskwan]

SP: "The Swan" (same as Oksana Baiul, his idol, from 1994 Olys)

LP: "Liebestraum" by Frank Liszt

Who else has skated to Liebestraum in the past? By the by, Johnny has the gentle and fluid, but at times tepid and monotonous, skating style to suit the music. I predict the same choreog. as Otonal: lots of introspective arm-raising, touching the head and neck, feel the ice, blow a kiss, flick of the wrist and fingers, back spiral jump entry. I just hope he comes up w/ some different choreography, esp in his footwork which it seems he often trips in. What about extended spread eagles and stag jumps or split falling leaf?

Skating style wise, Johnny is less effeminate than say Sandhu or Jeff Buttle, at least in my opinion. It must be the David Wilson choreog, w/ the Canadians:lol :rollin

[Eeyora]

Liebestraum was used by Natalia Mishkutenok and Artur Dmitriev for their 1992 Long Program. It won them the Olympics. It was a beautiful program. I loved this pair and for me it was their signature piece. As I can recall in the program he was an artist and she was his muse.

[fdevine]

I love Johnny's skating. It's so beautiful. He's my favorite since Todd went Pro. I hope he is well this year, has a quad and wins the OGM. Go Johnny.

grannie frances

[Undaunted Courage]

Skating style wise, Johnny is less effeminate than say Sandhu or Jeff Buttle, at least in my opinion.

Hmm, I actually thik Johnny is the most effeminate skater out there right now (his costumes don't help). Sandhu comes a very close second. But I actually think that Johnny skating is more dancy and not effeminate. He reminds me of Kurt Browning.

[FedCop]

Jennifer Robinson used "Liebestraum" for her LP in her last competitive season, IIRC. I also recall that the fluff pieces on CBC connected it to her then-upcoming wedding. When she skated it well, it was a good program.

[GMAN]

I wouldn't say Jeff Buttle is feminine at all! In my opinion, he is a very manly skater.

I like Johnny because he's eccentric and different. I think these pieces will work well for him that he's chosen for the Olympic year! You've got to respect him and his determination and personality, if you agree with him or not.

[Vinluvskwan]

G Man, you know what, I agree w/ you regarding Jeff Buttle. He has such a unique and dynamic AND DIFFICULT choreog that earns him humongous PCS scores. Jeff's style is perhaps the most modern among the top men skaters.

Parts of Johnny's choreog are very femme, but this actually works well to his musical choices. I sorta doubt he'll greatly alter his choreo as he still co-coached by Tarasova and from this past season before his injury hampered him at Worlds, the judges really rewarded him w/ PCS that were only surpassed by Plushy BEFORE Lambiel exploded.

Speaking of Lambiel, I agree he skated the "best" at Worlds, but his LP was marred by 2 blatant jump mistakes but his style is so-so; he has speed and out-of this-world spins in the Swiss tradition.

Sandhu is classically elegant but inconsistent until he showed the goods and finished 3rd at Worlds Free Skate. At his best he is as fluid as Lu Chen skating to Rach piano concierto.

And of course there is Evan...young, fresh, very Broadway but he can also handle European style (really dig his bullfighter turn in his SP from this past season).

We know about Plushy...erratic, operatic, dramatic but effective.
Who else did I missed?

[gatzbee]

i don't see effeminate qualities in buttle's skating at all. he even gives a hearty handshake to his coaches right after his skate as opposed to a hug ;) .

[kwancierto de aranjuez]

Skating style wise, Johnny is less effeminate than say Sandhu or Jeff Buttle, at least in my opinion. It must be the David Wilson choreog, w/ the Canadians

why does gentle and grace have to be known as feminine or effeminate...

what exactly is the definition of masculine or feminine...

[tongueincheek]

Yeah, you might be engaged to be married but you know which "tart" he dreams about. hehe Crizzy, I'm afraid I'm a bad fan. I've seen a couple of his films, and based on his accent I'd say he's Scottish, but that's all I know about the guy. :o

Topic, topic, now where did I put my topic? Oh yes. I truly am looking forward to Johnny's programs this year as I think those 2 pieces of music really suit him. I think his Swan will be especially brilliant.

[berthesghost]

..am I a little hessitant to list the Sasha gossip here? She's reported to be reusing last years "Dark Eyes" for SP and doing "something classical" for the LP. Call me jaded, but "Sasha's gonna skate to something classical" is about as predictable as "breaking news.... my cousin's hairdresser's son skates at Sasha's rink, and she said Sasha's gonna be wearing skates when she takes the ice in Torino!"

[Krista]

BGOI :lol

[Crizzy]

BG:rollin I bet it's Turandot.

[berthesghost]

From our friend:

"JunJohn21
~Member~
(6/24/05 9:07 am)
Reply &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp Mao using Lori Nichols
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I found this on FSU:


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Mao had LeAnne Miller choreographed her programs in April for the up coming season but she just came back from Lori Nichols. It seem as if Mao is going to drop LeAnn Miller's programs..guess kinda waste of money, eh? I can't wait to see her new Lori's choreographed programs!!!
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Looks like she might drop romeo & juliet! I hope she does, that music has been overused this past season. "

[berthesghost]

Unless the new coach changes anything, Jubert's programs were choreogrphed by Morosov (again).

[GMAN]

According to the Broadmoor Competition, Ryan Jahnke's short is to a jazzy mambo, and his long is to "Rodeo" by Copland. Yu-Na Kim is still competing her last year's LP "Papa, Can You Hear Me."

[berthesghost]

great info on the Japanese ladies here:www.fsuniverse.net/forum/...hp?t=26479 (http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showthread.php?t=26479)

Fumie is doing something flamenco guitar for the sp and classical for the lp.

Torino will be Shizuka's last stand, no more worlds for her. :(

[Impromptu]

I watched some of the Broadmoor webcast...

Vise/Trent's LP seemed to be of the Cirque du Soleil type music (but it wasn't the same program as last year's Cirque program... I don't think it was anyway).

Miller/Brubaker's LP is to Addams Family

Rohene Ward kept last year's SP, and his new LP is to Piazzolla Tangos (the middle one was "Oblivion", I recognized the first one but I don't know the exact title).

[Krista]

I like what Fume said, BGOI lol.

'The short would be guitar music, flamenco-ish (she says this). I chose classical music for the free. The theme of the free is, Sato-sensei (her coach) told me to 'try NOT to explain the theme' (laughs), but to me, the short is a 'strong woman' and the free would be 'light and shadow''

"try NOT to explain the theme" :rollin cute :)

[berthesghost]

Salome Brunner, Lambiel and Mier's choreogrpaher, is doing Lina Johanson's programs this season.

[berthesghost]

Sasha posted a new journal entry only to say she has nothing to say. She hasn't chosen her LP music yet, although she must have narrowed it down as she's started on the costume already. :rolleyes

[MKGrace]

From Sasha's journal:

"...and lately listening to a lot of music. I hope to decide something by this weekend on the music I will use. We will then cut it and begin putting in a program. I will get a new dress for the short program. We’re beginning to play around with the new dress for the long."

To me that sounds like she is keeping Dark Eyes for the short (same program, new dress), and she's very close to deciding on her LP music. She must have it narrowed to a few choices to be thinking about the dress already.

[berthesghost]

This just in"

Jenny Kirk = Lp "Moulin Rouge" soundtrack

Bebe Liang = Sp "Firedance" by David Foster
Lp "Hope, Romance" by Apocalyptica and "Oblivion" by Astor Piazolla

[Krista]

Interesting. Hopefully its not the Tango de Roxanne lol

[epoibim]

According to Jenny's site, it's a medley of 4 pieces from the MR soundtrack...chances are Tango is in there somewhere! And evidently her costume will have a "TON of sparkles". She is too cute. I'm glad to see her so excited, I haven't picked up on this "spark" in the past and I'm already feeling it for her.

I don't know *what* to wish for anymore as far as Michelle's Tango goes! She knows best...and always has:)

[Krista]

Her Chicago costume had sparkles and was great. I think the cabaret/broadway style suits her, in that she has a showy and fun quality about her. I wonder if Jef Billings is doing her costume. He did the Chicago one Im pretty sure.

[berthesghost]

Julia Sebestian is back with Morosov for both programs

[SkateWorlds1]

To tell the truth, I will be surprised if Kirk makes the Olympic team. I think it will be Michelle, Sasha and Kimmie.

[EigthAv]

Taylor's first competition of the season will be Liberty and I've added her name to the senior ladies list in that thread. She's keeping her "Rhapsody in Blue" SP from '05 Nationals and has a new long choreographed by Lea Ann Miller. I'm told that both her official and fan sites should be updated soon.<!--EZCODE BR START--><!--EZCODE BR END--><!--EZCODE BR START--><!--EZCODE BR END-->The quote is from Unseen Skaters™ and Sylvia.I like Lea Ann Miller choreography.I love Katy Taylor-Skater. Don't be to quick to load the bus for the Italian Olympics.It could be Kwan-Cohen-Taylor. <!--EZCODE BR START--><!--EZCODE BR END--><!--EZCODE BR START--><!--EZCODE BR END-->Amongst Katy's competition at the Liberty event which is already underway,as I peck on these msntv remote keys,are Emily Hughes,Jane Bugaeva and 2005 US Novice champ,Rachel Flatt.Flatt will be competing at the Liberty as Senior Lady only for the short programmes. I hope Taylor puts a boot in Little Hughes' boo-tay. :hat I also like Rachel Flatt and assume she may be considering the big hyper-leap™ from US Nats novice to US Nats senior,as Stellato did in 1999.We'll know a bit more about her prowess after the Liberty shorts............... Does Daisy's younger sister,Petunia Duke wear Liberty Shorts? <!--EZCODE BR START--><!--EZCODE BR END--><!--EZCODE BR START--><!--EZCODE BR END-->This next part is dedicated to BeeGee...... Berthe,you gotta love it! Little Hughes vs a possible Next Lipinski for Liberty belt.I'm taking Next all the way! I was a huge-big Big Hughes fan and I'm a one Hughes man.I'm tempted,Emily is a pretty name,but GO KATY and GO RACHEL! Come on Jane! Letz nip this newest Hughes mania in the bud girlz!!! :smokin

[berthesghost]

But where do you sit on the Danille issue?

[berthesghost]

FD music is soundtrack to "Somewhere in Time" choreographed by David Wilson (Miss MAry's favorite! :b ) who's never done a Dance FD before.

[vixen62025]

Not by MK though... apparently Daisuke Takahashi is using this for his program.

[KwanFan1212]

Amanda Evora & Mark Ladwig's programs for this upcoming season are listed below. And they aren't listed on their website yet because I've been in and out of town but I promise they will be soon. I'll get on the ball with running a website one of these days, LOL :lol :angel

SP-Hotel California 8)
LP-Prokofiev's Romeo & Juliet :b

[attyfan]

On USFSA, it is reported that Kimmie Meissner will be using a Rach piece ("Symphonic Dances") for her SP.

FSU reports that Obertas & Slavnov may be skating to "Snowstorms" for their SP -- and that TT & MM chose the same piece of music.

The ISU needs to make a rule that if two skaters are using the same music, it needs to fit into a nice little slogan ("Battle of the Carmens" or "Tournament of Toscas") IMO, Battle of the "Snowstorms" just doesn't cut it.

[Crizzy]

So are we going to have "The Slaughter of the Swans" this year??:lol

[patsue]

Crizzy--:rollin

[attyfan]

Well, Johnny did mention he might have feathers on his costume. Do you think TT is setting him up as an alternative target for PETA, to take some of the pressure off of her?

[Krista]

LOL @ Battle of the Snowstorms:rollin

[attyfan]

Canadian ice dancers will use "Somewhere in Time" for their
free dance -- hope that this link works --

www.dubreuil-lauzon.com/journal.php (http://www.dubreuil-lauzon.com/journal.php)

[Skatephile]

Here's the latest updated music list for Team USA skaters (singles & pairs) as compiled from their updated USFS athlete bios (Michael Weiss' is one of the latest), official skater sites and/or summer competition debuts:
www.fsuniverse.net/forum/...post585976 (http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showthread.php?p=585976#post585976)

--Sylvia

[aetherae]

Thanks for the list, Skatephile!

I'm really excited about Bebe Liang's music. I thought Astor Piazzola worked really wonderfully for such an energetic and powerful style. Add Apocalyptica (a cello quartet best known for Metallica covers) and it sounds like it'll be a really exciting, fitting piece of music. :)

What is Michael Weiss thinking?! I love Beethoven, but I can't see how chopping up three of his most famous pieces will work together. Splicing pieces together seems to work best when the pieces aren't too well known; it seems like it'll be really jarring.

[berthesghost]

Ahhhhh, curse the off season and our hunger for premature info.

It's been revealed in an article that yet another skater has chacked their first choice and made another LP.

Lambiel has dumped Rach2 and chosen a "newer" version of 4 Seasons. Although it's different cuts, a different conductor, and even a different season, he called Caro for premission.