Our wonderful Vice-President-NOT!!!

[mr pru]

This is on record-so I cannot be labeled whatever I'm going to be labeled.

If certain people have any doubts-look it up before making a complete jack-*** out of yourselves again.

As a member of Congress during the Reagan era-Dick Cheney voted against:

-The Endangered Species Act

-The Clean Water Act

-The Clean Air Act

-Funding nutrition programs for children (Ten seperate votes)

-The Federal Immunization Program

-Against a ban on armor-piercing bullets
-(so much for helping the nation's police)

-The Head Start Program

-The Equal Rights Amendment

-A call for Nelson Mandela's release from prison

-The Federal Water Pollution Act

-The Superfund to clean up hazardous waste sites

-A 1985 bill requiring corporations to keep track of chemical
emissions

-1984 Hunger Relief Act which expanded eligibilty for the
federal food stamp program

-Voted in 1983 to raise the retirement age for Social Security
recipients from 65 to 67, after declaring following the 1982
election that every Republican member of Congress was
"committed to support Social Security to his dying breath."

-Voted in 1982 against providing mortgage assistance for low-
income home buyers

-Voted in 1988 to eliminate protections against housing
discriminations for families with children

-Consistently opposed the creation of the Department of
Education

-Voted in 1985 to freeze funding for higher education programs

-Opposed reauthorization of college student aid programs
contained in the Higher Education Act

-Voted repeatedly against programs to provide assistance to
displaced workers

-Voted in 1985 against legislation requiring factory owners to
notify employees before closing plants

-Voted in 1986 against "Buy American" legislation that would
have required federal agencies to purchase goods and
services from firms that employ U.S. workers

-Voted in the Reagan recession of the early 1980's to block
an extension of unemployment benefits and initiatives to
provide health insurance for the unemployed and their
families

-Voted to support Reagan's veto of the Civil Rights
Restoration Act of 1987

-Voted for a constitutional amendment to ban the use of
busing to integrate public schools

-Voted in 1988 against Hate Crimes Data legislation that
provided for the collection and publication of information
regarding acts of violence that were linked to racial, ethnic,
religious, or gender prejudices

-Voted in 1982 to fund a Reagan administration initiative to
produce chemical weapons

-Voted consistently for legislation to fund the contra rebels
seeking to overthrow the elected government of Nicaragua
and against legislation to support peaceful efforts to end
apartheid in South Africa

How about them apples??

[manskater]

Mr Pru -- now you know some people don't believe in FACTS.;)

[bjb22]

Our VP's only real success is that he was legally able to bilk millions of $ from the government through Halliburton.

"Steal a little and they through you in jail
Steal a lot and they make you King"

"Sweetheart Like You"- Bob Dylan ("Infidels")

It's hard to imagine feebler praise.

[mr pru]

Agreed!

I'm doing some research as we type on that very issue. As soon as I'm done-I'll present it for public consumption and consideration.

[JerryStopher]

So, Mr Pru ... DICK Cheney has quite the record, doesn't he?

Remember Spiro Agnew? No one really thought it would be a good idea to let him be president, so a way was found to stick him with charges that forced him to resign as vice president, then Nixon got Ford to replace him. With Ford in and considered "safe," it was okay to go after Nixon, thus forcing him to resign, too.

And while Ford was pretty much of a laughingstock, he didn't make things a whole lot worse, as I recall. But when he said, "I'm no Lincoln, but I'm not a Model-T either" my brother cried out, "Yeah, he's an Edsel!" And I believe my bro was right.

So: if we can remove Bush from office, will we be happy with Cheney?

And I do believe that Bush should be impeached, because I think causing the unnecessary deaths of over 1700 of our brave soldiers and Marines is a far worse crime than giving in to a tramp like Monica. If cheating on Hillary is impeachable, so is killiing our own troops!

[EigthAv]

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol Sign me on up! I like Cheney.I also liked Dick Agnew.They inherited the Kennedy/Johnson mess and came into power during some very radical times in American history.Pru,for the record,I campaigned heavily for Lipinski in 2000.I listed plenty of good reasons to not elect either of the former Southern Governors.I tried to remind people of Johnson and Carter.Yeah,I know Johnson wasn't a governor,but same difference.After Bush Cheney took over,I got used to it and figured out how to make it work for me.Sort of like I did when Bill Gore took over in 1992.<!--EZCODE BR START--><!--EZCODE BR END--><!--EZCODE BR START--><!--EZCODE BR END-->"Only those who work can make mistakes.Others cannot." -Jelka Skrlj<!--EZCODE BR START--><!--EZCODE BR END-->Mike

[mr pru]

Eigth-

You sincerely seem like an intelligent person. How in the name of human decency can you support a man with a record such as this?

[madison]

Mr. Pru,
Amen to that. How can so many be so out-of-touch with reality? Maybe they are dyslexic.

[Yankees Suck 01]

I can answer why I voted for Bush over Kerry and I can do it without calling people names too.

I took what I considered the lesser of two evil's (and I am not calling either candidate evil. The above is just an expression)

Being from Massachusetts I know a lot about what Kerry didn't do when he was being paid to be a senator here in MA and there was no way I was going to vote for that man to run the Country when he couldn't even show up to run our state.

[4dogknight]

there was no way I was going to vote for that man to run the Country when he couldn't even show up to run our state.

Funny, that's one of the reasons I wouldn't vote for Bush either time.

4dk

[mr pru]

Georgie couldn't even show up to fulfill his "military" obligation that daddy arranged for him over hundreds of more qualified applicants.

But that doesn't have anything with Cheney's PITIFUL voting stances.

[4dogknight]

But that doesn't have anything with Cheney's PITIFUL voting stances.

That's true mr pru but folks had to vote for Bush in order for all of us to be inflicted with Cheney.

There were/are so many other people in the party that had/have better credentials than the two mentioned above that it's 'wonder' why those two were the 'chosen ones', she said in a tone dripping with sarcasm.

4dk

[mr pru]

Agreed!

Very well put.

[bjb22]

A good clue to Cheneys allegience is the fact that he didn't attend Arafat's funeral. VP's nearly always attend funerals of leaders of State (OR World Leaders). Of course, Palestine isn't recognized as a "State" per se (alhough it's creation has been at the top of the UN's agenda for over 50 years) but Arafat's status as a recognizable "Leader" is undeniable. I believe U.S. State sent some deputy-secretary or something to that extent.

Of course, Cheney will say he was a "terrorist". Isn't it strange how Israel (by far the most reprimanded UN member-state) can displace and slaughter countless Palestinians and it is called a "military" action and any response, recipricol or otherwise, is considered "terrorism".

"The Man is opposed to fair play
He wants it all and he wants it his way"

"License To Kill"- Bob Dylan ("Infidels")

[dec5]

Richard Bruce Cheney (born January 30, 1941), widely known as Dick Cheney, is an American politician and businessman affiliated with the U.S. Republican Party. He is currently serving as the 46th Vice President of the United States under President George W. Bush.

Early life and family

Cheney was born in Lincoln, Nebraska to Richard Herbert Cheney and Marjorie Dickey Cheney. His father worked for the U.S. Department of Agriculture as a soil conservation agent and was a registred Democrat. He has a brother with the name of Bob and a sister named Susan. Cheney grew up in Casper, Wyoming, and met his high school sweetheart and future wife, Lynne Vincent, at age 14.

Cheney excelled both academically and athletically in high school. He was elected the Natrona County High School senior class president, represented the school at Boys State, and played halfback on the football team. [1] (www.billingsgazette.com/i...union.inc) (http://www.billingsgazette.com/index.php?tl=1&display=rednews/2004/07/19/build/wyoming/20-cheney-reunion.inc)) [2] (wyoshpo.state.wy.us/nacohs.htm)[3 (http://wyoshpo.state.wy.us/nacohs.htm)[3)] (ncsdweb.ncsd.k12.wy.us/schools/nchs/) (http://ncsdweb.ncsd.k12.wy.us/schools/nchs/)) Beginning the summer after high school graduation in 1959 and during the next six years, Cheney worked on power lines and was a member of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers union.

In 1964, he married his high-school sweetheart Lynne Vincent. Mrs. Cheney has a B.A. with highest honors from Colorado College, an M.A. from The University of Colorado, and a Ph.D. from The University of Wisconsin specializing in British literature. She has authored or co-authored eight books and numerous articles. Appointed Chair of the National Endowment for the Humanities by Ronald Reagan, she served from 1986 to 1993. She is now a public speaker, author, and co-host of Crossfire.

Cheney has two adult daughters, Elizabeth and Mary, and four grandchildren. Elizabeth was born in 1966 and is married with four children. She graduated from the University of Chicago Law School in 1996 and has worked as an international law attorney, consultant, and now for the State Department's Near East Affairs Bureau. Mary is one of her father's top campaign aides and closest confidantes and lives in Denver, Colorado. Mary's sexual orientation as a lesbian has become a source of increasing public attention for Dick Cheney in light of the recent same-sex marriage debate.

Education

Following high school, Cheney earned an academic scholarship and attended Yale University in 1959. He decided after three semesters to take some time off from Yale, on account of difficulty with his studies. He saved up enough money and returned to Yale only to leave again the following semester partly due to poor grades. [4] (www.yaledailynews.com/art...D=12444)[5 (http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=12444)[5)] (www.facts.com/worldalmana...n-003.htm) (http://www.facts.com/worldalmanac/election2000/wa-election-003.htm))

In 1962, when he was 21, he pleaded guilty to two DWIs in Wyoming. [6] (www.thesmokinggun.com/arc...dwi1.html) (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/cheneydwi1.html)) [7] (www.thesmokinggun.com/arc...dwi2.html) (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/cheneydwi2.html)) He was reputedly dissatisfied with his work at the time, and in an May 7, 1991 New Yorker interview said that he found himself "working, building power lines, having been in a couple of scrapes with the law." He said that the arrests made him "think about where I was and where I was headed. I was headed down a bad road, if I continued on that course."

Refocusing on academics, Cheney first matriculated to Casper Community College in 1963 and thereafter to the University of Wyoming where he began earning straight A's. He received his bachelor's degree in 1965 and master's degree in political science in 1966 both from the University of Wyoming.

He attended the University of Wisconsin-Madison as a doctoral candidate, but he left and entered politics before completing his doctorate. Cheney was selected for a one-year fellowship in the office of Representative William Steiger, a Republican congressman from Wisconsin.

Political career

Early White House appointments

Dick Cheney's public service career began under the Nixon administration in 1969. He served in a number of positions at the Cost of Living Council, at the United States Office of Economic Opportunity (as a special assistant to Donald Rumsfeld beginning in the spring of 1969), and within the White House. Under President Gerald Ford, Cheney became Assistant to the President and the youngest White House Chief of Staff in history. He was campaign manager for Ford's 1976 presidential campaign, while James Baker served as campaign chairman.


Congress
The Dick Cheney Federal Building in Casper, Wyoming.
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The Dick Cheney Federal Building in Casper, Wyoming.

In 1978, Cheney was elected to represent Wyoming in the U.S. House of Representatives. Cheney was reelected five times, serving until 1989. He was Chairman of the Republican Policy Committee from 1981 to 1987 when he was elected Chairman of the House Republican Conference. The following year, he was elected House Minority Whip.

Among the many votes he cast during his tenure in the House, he voted in 1979 with the majority against making Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.'s birthday a national holiday, and again voted with the majority in 1983 when the measure passed.

He voted against the creation of the U.S. Department of Education, citing his concern over budget deficits and expansion of the federal government. He also believed it to be an encroachment to state´s rights.[8] (www.issues2000.org/2004/D...ation.htm) (http://www.issues2000.org/2004/Dick_Cheney_Education.htm))

In 1986, after President Reagan vetoed a bill to impose economic sanctions against upon South Africa for its official policy of apartheid, Cheney was one of 83 Representatives who voted against overriding the veto. In later years, Cheney articulated his opposition to "unilateral sanctions," against many different countries, stating "they almost never work."[9] (www.cato.org/speeches/sp-dc062398.html) (http://www.cato.org/speeches/sp-dc062398.html)) He also opposed unilateral sanctions against communist Cuba, and later in his career he would support multilateral sanctions against Iraq. However the comparison to Cuba is not exactly apt, as the European Community had voted to place limited sanctions upon South Africa in 1986.

In 1986, Cheney, along with 145 Republicans and 31 Democrats, voted against a nonbinding Congressional resolution calling on the South African government to release Nelson Mandela from prison, after the majority Democrats defeated proposed amendments to the language that would have required Mandela to renounce violence sponsored by the ANC and requiring the ANC to oust the Communist faction from leadership. The resolution was defeated.[10] (www.nationalreview.com/co...100c.html) (http://www.nationalreview.com/convention/guest_comment/guest_commentprint073100c.html)) Appearing on CNN during the Presidential campaign in 2000, Cheney addressed criticism for this, saying he opposed the resolution because the ANC "at the time was viewed as a terrorist organization and had a number of interests that were fundamentally inimical to the United States."[11] (archives.cnn.com/2000/ALL...ndex.html) (http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/07/30/talk.wrap/index.html))

As a Wyoming representative, he was also known for his vigorous advocacy of the state's petroleum and coal businesses. The federal building in Casper, a regional center of the oil and coal business, was named the "Dick Cheney Federal Building" for him.

Cabinet

Cheney served as the Secretary of Defense from March 1989 to January 1993 under President George H. W. Bush. He directed Operation Just Cause in Panama and Operation Desert Storm in the Middle East. In 1991 he was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom for "preserving America's defenses at a time of great change around the world."

Cheney joined the American Enterprise Institute after leaving office in 1993. In 1995 he became Chairman and CEO of Halliburton Company, a worldwide energy services corporation with a long history of service to the government. Some Halliburton subsidiaries serve as private military contractors. He also sat on the board of Procter & Gamble, Union Pacific, and EDS.

In 1997, he, along with Donald Rumsfeld and others, founded the non-profit educational organization called the Project for the New American Century whose goal is to "promote American global leadership".

Vice Presidency
President George Bush's 2003 State of the Union address. Over the President's right shoulder is Cheney; over his left is Dennis Hastert.
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President George Bush's 2003 State of the Union address. Over the President's right shoulder is Cheney; over his left is Dennis Hastert.

In the spring of 2000, while serving as Halliburton's CEO, he headed George W. Bush's Vice-Presidential search committee. After reviewing Cheney's findings, Bush surprised pundits by asking Cheney himself to join the Republican ticket.

In the 2000 presidential election, a question was raised by the Democrats as to Cheney's state of residency since he had been living in Texas. A lawsuit was brought in Jones v. Bush attempting to invalidate electoral votes from Texas, but was rejected by a Federal district court in Texas.

Cheney quickly earned a reputation as a very "hands-on" Vice President, taking an active role in cabinet meetings and policy formation. He is often described as the most active and powerful Vice President in recent years, moving the office out of its traditional figurehead role. He even got an office in the House of Representatives. Some like Reagan's last Chief of Staff, Ken Duberstein has likened him to a prime minister because of his powerful position inside the Bush Administration.

Cheney directed the National Energy Policy Development Group (N.E.P.D.G.)[12] (www.whitehouse.gov/energy/) (http://www.whitehouse.gov/energy/)) commonly known as the Energy task force. This group included Enron executives who worked as team members despite the ongoing Enron scandal. In July 2003, the Supreme Court ordered the Department of Commerce to make the N.E.P.D.G.'s documents public. The documents included information on companies that had made agreements with Saddam Hussein to develop Iraq's oil. The documents also included maps of oil deposits in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and the United Arab Emirates. The N.E.P.D.G.'s report contains several chapters, covering topics such as environmental protection, energy efficiency, renewable energy, and energy security. Critics focus on the eighth chapter, "Strengthening Global Alliances," (www.whitehouse.gov/energy/Chapter8.pdf) (http://www.whitehouse.gov/energy/Chapter8.pdf)) claiming that this chapter urges military actions to remove strategic, political, and economic obstacles to increased U.S. consumption of oil. Others point out that the report contains no such recommendation.

Following the uncertainty immediately after the events of September 11, 2001, Cheney and President Bush were kept in physically distant locations for security reasons. For a period Cheney was not seen in public, remaining in an undisclosed location and communicating with the White House via secure video phones.
Vice President Dick Cheney and his wife Lynne with their fourth grandchild, Philip Richard Perry (born in Washington, D.C., July 2, 2004). His parents are Liz Cheney and Phil Perry, the daughter and son-in-law of the Cheneys.
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Vice President Dick Cheney and his wife Lynne with their fourth grandchild, Philip Richard Perry (born in Washington, D.C., July 2, 2004). His parents are Liz Cheney and Phil Perry, the daughter and son-in-law of the Cheneys.

On the morning of June 29, 2002, Cheney became only the second man in history to serve as Acting President of the United States under the terms of the 25th Amendment to the Constitution, while President Bush was undergoing a colonoscopy. Cheney acted as President from 10:09 UTC that day until Bush resumed control at 13:24 UTC.

Supporters of Vice President Cheney point to his reputation as a very shrewd and knowledgeable businessman and politician who knows the functions and runnings of the federal government. Opponents accuse him of supporting decisions that indirectly subsidize the oil industry and major government contractors, and hold that Cheney strongly influenced the decision to use military force in Iraq.

Relationship to Halliburton as Vice President

Cheney resigned as CEO of Halliburton on July 25, 2000, and put all of his corporate shares into a blind trust, except 433,333 stock options worth about $8 million transferred to a charitable trust. As part of his deferred compensation agreements with Halliburton contractually arranged prior to Cheney becoming Vice President, Cheney's public financial disclosure sheets filed with the U.S. Office of Government Ethics showed he received $162,392 in 2002 and $205,298 in 2001. Upon his nomination as a Vice Presidential candidate, Cheney purchased an insurance policy that would guarantee his deferred payments regardless of the company's performance, removing any conflict of interest. Cheney's net worth, estimated to be between $30 million and $100 million, is largely derived from his post at Halliburton. Halliburton was placed under federal investigation by the FBI after being awarded a multi-billion dollar no-bid contract for services related to the war in Iraq.

It must here be noted that Cheney is not the first businessman-politician turned Vice President. Levi P. Morton, Benjamin Harrison's vice president, was a prominent New York banker, Garret A. Hobart, William McKinley's first vice president was a corporate lawyer. Theodore Roosevelt's vice president, Charles Fairbanks was a wealthy railroad lawyer. Charles G. Dawes who was vice president under Calvin Coolidge was a banker in the Midwest. George H. W. Bush, vice president under Ronald Reagan had interests in oil and banking. President William Howard Taft's vice president, James Schoolcraft Sherman was owner of the "New Hartford Canning Company". President Gerald Ford's vice president, Nelson Rockefeller, was a director of Creole Petroleum Company, a Rockefeller subsidiary in Venezuela, and the grandson of the first American billionaire, John D. Rockefeller.

Plans for the future

Since 2001, Cheney has said that he wishes to retire to private life after that his term as Vice President expires, when asked if he is interested in the Republican presidential nomination. In 2004, he reaffirmed this position strongly on Fox News Sunday, saying, "I will say just as hard as I possibly know how to say... 'If nominated, I will not run,' 'If elected, I will not serve,' or not only no, but 'Hell no,' I've got my plans laid out. I'm going to serve this president for the next four years, and then I'm out of here."





Just love the guy......The US is so blessed to have him.

[kwanfanatic2002]

AMEN, DEC5, It is really nice to see you posting here again.
I always reading your posts. That is a lot for you to post too!!. I wish he would run for President. I think he would be a good President. He is a good man, intelligent, classy, etc. America has been very fortunate to have him as VP for both terms.

[mr pru]

I'm not sure I read anything there that was complimentary to Dicky C..

His abysmal voting record favored big corporations at every turn.

It's obvious the man cares zero about the everyday Joe/Jane that has to get up each day and try to make a living.

I would hate to be in his shoes come judgement day.

[kwanfanatic2002]

VP Cheney is going to have no problems come judgement day. He is an honest, good decent intelligent classy individual, unlike the ultra far left dims these days. They are the ones who should be concerned. I hope they are saying their prayers, starting with Turbin Durbin, Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Byrd, etc, etc, etc.

[mr pru]

If anyone thinks Dicky C. is an honest man-there is a book I'd like to recommend to them to read very carefully.

[4dogknight]

Mr pru, after reading all the accolades to the current administration shape shifters, I quite feel like bursting into song. Not any old song mind you but one that I feel is apropos to the occasion! (Just substitute either Georgie or Dickie for Conrad)

Bye Bye Birdie Soundtrack Lyrics

Song: Normal American Boy Lyrics

Reporter: :
He's coming! He's coming! Conrad Birdie is coming!
Hey Conrad, how about answering a few questions?
How do you feel about joining in the Army?
Albert: :
Ah Ah Ah, how does he feel...You ask how he feels
He's much too shy to tell you,
So, I'll tell ya how he feels
He feels brave and eager!
Strangely humble! Proud to be a plain GI!
Rosie: :
He would gladly face those bullets,
For he's not afraid to die!
Chorus: :
For he's a fine, upstanding, patriotic, healthy, normal
American boy!
Albert: :
And that's why he volunteered for...
Voice: :
Volunteered? I thought he was drafted!
Voice: :
And he appealed...three times!
Rosie: :
Sing!
Girls: :
We love you Conrad
Oh yes we do
We love you Conrad
And will be true!
When you're not near us
We're blue!
Oh, Conrad, we love you...
Albert: :
Very nice!
Voice: :
Say what's the pitch on that Hollywood starlet, Conrad.
Are you two engaged?
Rosie: :
Ah Ah...Is he engaged? Is Conrad engaged?
There's absolutely nothing to the rumor he's engaged!
Albert: :
She's a real pal, like a sister, but it doesn't mean a thing!
And that eighteen carat diamond, it was just a "friendship" ring!
Chorus: :
For he's a fine, upstanding, patriotic, healthy, normal American boy!
Reporter:
And why was your husband so mad?
Albert: :
Sing!
Girls: :
We love you Conrad
Oh yes we do
We love you Conrad
And will be true!
Reporter: :
Hey Mr. Peterson, give us a scoop, is Conrad still drinking a lot?
Rosie: :
Now listen here! This gossip must stop!
He goes to church each Sunday and he doesn't touch a drop!
Albert: :
He's as decent as a minister!
Rosie: :
Absolutely
He's as sober as a judge!
He subscribes to ev'ry charity!
And his hobby's making fudge!
All: :
For he's a fine upstanding, patriotic, healthy, normal American boy
Reporter:
Is it true that you found Conrad in a Reform School?
Rosie & Albert: :
That's a lie!
A lie thru and thru!
I'll tell you where he came from, here's the story and it's true!
He was born in Indochina,
Albert: :
He was born in old Virginia
Rosie: :
Son of missionaries there!
Albert: :
On a thousand acre farm!
Rosie: :
Very poor and very hungry,
What a cruel life to bear!
Albert: :
From a line of wealthy planters,
Full of genteel, southern charm!
Rosie: :
Soon he drifted down to Hong Kong,
To a waterfront saloon!
Albert: :
In evening by the river,
In the moonlight they would croon!
Rosie: :
That is where I heard him singing,
Albert: :
That's where Conrad started singing,
Rosie: :
Underneath a Hong Kong moon!
Albert: :
'Neath that sweet plantation moon!
All: Teens: :
Oh Beautiful for spacious skies, We love you, Conrad!
Oh, yes we do!
For amber waves of grain. We love you, Conrad, and we'll be true.
A-A-America America, Oh, oh, Conrad, we love you
God shed His grace on thee. We love you, Conrad, and we'll be true.
All: :
For he's a fine upstanding, av'rage, modest, patriotic,
healthy, normal American,
American boy!


4dk – who could have just inserted the url (http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/byebyebirdie/normalamericanboy.htm) for the song but decided to follow the example of some of the posters for the opposition.

Hey did anyone notice that in this long post I didn't mention Clinton once, call anyone names - alluded maybe but didn't call, and at no time did my hands leave the ends of my arms.

[mr pru]

Holy moly!!! :eek

[Sparks]

This message was brought to you by Haliburtin...your favorite war-profiteers for over 20 years! :b

[madison]

4DK!

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[elliebea]

giving in to a tramp like Monica. . . .
He did what?

Guess the resident feminist in me is alive and kicking, especially on that one.

Maybe Monica 'gave in' to a loutish tramp like Bill! She at least had the excuse of being young and immature.

[Skatekwan6]

VP Cheney is going to have no problems come judgement day. He is an honest, good decent intelligent classy individual, unlike the ultra far left dims these days. They are the ones who should be concerned. I hope they are saying their prayers, starting with Turbin Durbin, Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Byrd, etc, etc, etc.

What an immature statement. Do you ALWAYS have to generalize things? This thread is about Dick Cheney, but of course, you have to mention "all democrats" and put them down. If I didn't know you were a mother, I'd think you were 12 by reading your posts. Ugh. >:

[EigthAv]

His abysmal voting record favored big corporations at every turn.<!--EZCODE BR START--><!--EZCODE BR END-->What's wrong with "big corporations"? I'm counting on them.MSN is one of them.So are most of the sponsers of the USFSA.Pru,don't let me catch your bleeding heart liberal butt in Wal Mart! :lol :lol It's okay that Byrd got his political start as a Klansman...... because he is in the Democratic party? But let's all condemn Trent Lott for a statement he made at a retirement party,even though he never belonged to the Klan didn't build an early career on racism.And let's never forgive things Cheney did when he was younger because he is in "the wrong party".I am soooooooooo glad that Barbara "The Battleax" Boxer and her cohorts failed to stop Condi Rice! It is so inspiring to watch Ms.Rice pushing for democracy in places where it is dangerous to suggest such ideals.I admire her courage!

[4dogknight]

Hey 8A:
There is nothing wrong with Big Corporations but when legislation favors them at every turn, well we might as well be back in the 1880's and 1890's. Shades of Standard Oil don't cha know.

The pendulum which is now at the right zenith of its swing, will swing again to the middle, after a while will continue to swing to left zenith and then after a while will swing again to the middle. (Can you tell I’m a big fan of Boethius (http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?tocId=9080386&query=Boethius&ct=).)
Or in other words, what goes around comes around.

Or as I like to put it: “He who and if the shoe fits, wear it."

4dk

[candygirl559]

Paranoia running around the liberals as usual.

BTW, I like his voting record you mentioned and I'd have basically the same one if I were in charge.

As for legislators voting for companies, should we vote against them and have all industries shut down and become just like the Soviet Union?

[mr pru]

Paranoia??????????????

Never realized FACTS translated into paranoia.

[candygirl559]

That's b/c they're not facts in the first place.

[mr pru]

Voting records are a matter of public record.

Sorry-they are FACTS.

[candygirl559]

You mean he didn't support all these big nanny state programs, therefore he's out to get everybody? :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

In case you forgot, the Equal Rights Amendment isn't in the US Constitution, it died on June 30, 1982.

[mr pru]

No, I didn't forget.

You haven't lived long enough to remember some of these things.

[candygirl559]

Excuse me since when do you need to live long enough in order to have an opinion?

This is another attempt by liberals to silence people they don't agree with.

[mr pru]

Opinions may be formed at any age.

Knowledge and experience, especially in political matters, is acquired with living through these times and applying them to current situations.

[candygirl559]

Knowledge and experience, especially in political matters, is acquired with living through these times and applying them to current situations.

You mean living with the current unemployment rate of 5.1% is desperate economic times?

[mr pru]

It figures.

You missed the point entirely.

Another mistake of youth.

[candygirl559]

It figures.

You missed the point entirely.

Another mistake of youth.

No, I got it perfectly. You consider this economy to be devastating with a 5.1% unemployment rate.

[mr pru]

No need to repeat myself.

[candygirl559]

No need to repeat myself.

In other words, you just got owned. Thank you very much and stop living in your parents' basement.

[mr pru]

Yet another good belly laugh!

Tag-you're it.

[candygirl559]

et another good belly laugh!

Shouldn't you be doing your liberal duty and spend that money to feed the homeless?

Tag-you're it.

Would you stop with your childish games and temper tantrums.

[mr pru]

I'm hidin'-

You're seekin'.

[mr pru]

Gotta go!!

She's here in her Caddy.

Oh yes-here we go!!

[candygirl559]

Did your mommy finally have to tell you to get ready to go instead of playing in the backyard by yourself?

[4dogknight]

No, I got it perfectly. You consider this economy to be devastating with a 5.1% unemployment rate.

Unemployment is only one indicator of economic condition. And logically speaking yes it is devastating to those folks who are in that 5.1%. But the 5.1% is not the total unemployment number; it is only 5.1% of population applying and receiving unemployment benefits. It does not include those individuals who have exhausted their unemployment benefits and dropped off the rolls. But then you knew that candygirl, didn't you?

4dk - who is not a borrower or lender.

[mr pru]

Now it seems that Herr Cheney's chief of staff, Lewis Libby was also a source in this mess that has encircled Mr.(?) Rove.

It seems fitting that our VP would have a chief of staff that is capable of such unethical behavior.

This whole bunch is obviously rotten to the core.

What a shame for the great American people to have "people" of such dubious character running this country straight into the ground.

[manskater]

Pru -- You said a mouthful. Too bad its taken 4 years for many people in this country to see that.

[Jayjen36]

In other words, you just got owned. Thank you very much and stop living in your parents' basement.

Remarkable. I won't bother with insults. I am an adult and would like to see what other adults have to say about this issue. And you are quite right, age doesn't always tell as far as intelligence goes. But the things that you say are quite telling. If all you have to contribute are insults please take it to PM. After all we have gone well so far and we would still like to actually have this political area on MKF.

Unemployment is only one indicator of economic condition. And logically speaking yes it is devastating to those folks who are in that 5.1%. But the 5.1% is not the total unemployment number; it is only 5.1% of population applying and receiving unemployment benefits. It does not include those individuals who have exhausted their unemployment benefits and dropped off the rolls.

Thanks 4dognight! I was about to post this. Talk to someone who was working as at least a skilled laborer or in middle and upper management and is now working at the local Wal-Mart, or to one of those 5.1% to see just how much happiness this economy has spawned. Where I live there aren't a whole lot of people smiling.

[4dogknight]

edited to move post to a more appropriate thread.

4dk

[MKGrace]

Our V.P. is a foul-mouthed jerk.

[mr pru]

Since Cheney has been in the news lately-I thought I'd bump this up as one last gesture toward this section.

Please read my first post on the first page.

[manskater]

Mr pru - thank you for bumping this up. It is so clear that incompetency pervades this White House.

[MKalltheway]

Mr pru - thank you for bumping this up. It is so clear that incompetency pervades this White House.

you don't say!:clap