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bjb22
July 9th, 2005, 02:53 PM
www.rferl.org/featuresart...1456a.html (http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2005/06/411f3b82-1885-4309-936f-c6e28781456a.html)

EigthAv
July 9th, 2005, 04:41 PM
Good! The war on hurtful,illegal drugs needs to quickly become a worldwide priority.I rarely agree with Jesse Jackson.One thing we are in agreement on is that the drugs are capable of destroying entire generations as well as the residual destruction that goes along with the habits.Focusing on the average users/buyers has always been like putting bandaids on bullet wounds.You must cut off the sources on the production end of the business to win the war.

Krista
July 9th, 2005, 05:08 PM
Should have taken them and distributed them to all the addicts, thereby ruining the druglords business :b

Im only partly serious. But I am for legalizing and regulation. The war on drugs will never be won.

olympic
July 15th, 2005, 10:00 AM
DMBChic,

I tend to agree with you. Besides, if you want a war against hurtful drugs, we should attack the huge Pharmaceutical industries with torches and pitchforks. There is more addiction to prescription drugs than to illegal drugs.

Besides, Pot isn't physically addicting, while Prescription strength painkillers are.

Banannak
July 29th, 2005, 01:25 PM
9 tons of hash? I'll bet everyone there caught a buzz...:)

Anna

EigthAv
July 29th, 2005, 07:49 PM
The psycological addiction can be powerful and it isn't a funny innocent drug.I was on it for about 13 years. I know a little bit about it. I know all about how scoring that sack of pot can become more important than going to the grocery store,saving for those "rainy days" and paying bills on time. Prolonged regular use will lower your natural immunities,can lead to serious sinus and allergy problems.It's good to you at first.In the end you think you need it to "feel normal". I switched from pot to cigarettes about 19 years ago.Since then,I rarely get headaches,never have sinus problems and rarely ever catch colds.I also have a decent savings acoount and even a couple of mutual fund accouts.I haven't paid a penny in interest or late fees in over 10 years.I can only speak for me and I know I'm better off without da pot.I hate that I wasted my younger adult years in the marijuana culture.I could have been a contendaaah!!!!

Krista
July 30th, 2005, 04:28 PM
Mike, yep, been there done that. Same with my roommate. My roommate just completed her Masters degree in textiles, and got a high paying job, all the while smoking pot. I think it just depends on the individual. I tried my share in college, even smoked some cigarettes etc, but never was addicted, and I don't do any of that now. Its more of a mental addiction if someone gets addicted to pot. It isn't physically addictive. It always made me feel worse rather than better. I guess it just depends on the individual. Its unreal how many people smoke pot though, these days.

EigthAv
July 30th, 2005, 05:31 PM
There are always going to be exeptions.Masses of Americans,from 4 to 104 on pot is scary.Most people just get rather silly and can't focus under the influence.I am all for de-criminalizing so we can better face the problem and deal with it head on,but not for fully legalizing it.

chinadoll1970
August 15th, 2005, 12:23 AM
This may be a bit off topic, but when it comes to the topic of drugs, I think the US is too strict in its drug laws. I believe the US should legalize pot and some narcotics, cause right now, there are far too many chronic pain suffering people out there that need relief. If you're an adult, you should be able to buy certain drugs just as if you were buying alcohol. IMO, abusers of drugs will find the stuff regardless of laws made, you can't stop people from abusing drugs, but you can do something about the people who have severe medical conditions, live in chronic pain, and can't get a script for weed or narcotics; because the doctors are losing their jobs by helping these people out. I live with stage 5 endometriosis, and the pain I feel is this: internal bleeding, pain during/after urination, chronic pain in both ovaries to the point where I can't bend down anymore, pain when I merely walk around for an extended amount of time (like running errands). When you hurt long enough, you realize that our country is so obsessed on stopping the distribution of pain killing drugs to nearly everyone except maybe people fresh out of surgery, that us chronic pain people are left to suffer in silence.
This bit of info from a nurse on how chronic pain sufferers are ignored gets to me, it's so sad, I can barely understand how some medical professionals can live with themselves.
www.perspectives.com/foru...853-1.html (http://www.perspectives.com/forums/forum4/54853-1.html)

Krista
August 15th, 2005, 07:48 AM
well said chinadoll, ITA

4dogknight
August 20th, 2005, 08:47 PM
GOP lawmakers bash administration proposal on meth (http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-08-18-meth-politics_x.htm)

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"A federal anti-methamphetamine plan unveiled Thursday by the Bush administration is yet another example of how the administration is floundering in its efforts to combat the nation's top drug problem, Republican members of Congress said.

"If this is a cohesive national policy, it is embarrassing," said GOP Rep. Mark Souder of Indiana, chairman of the House subcommittee that handles national drug policy.

He suggested that the initiatives announced Thursday may be just a public relations ploy aimed at curbing congressional criticism of the administration's lack of response to the illegal meth problem. Indiana is one of the states that has been hardest hit by meth."

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"The administration plan, unveiled Thursday in Nashville, would limit sales of cold medicines containing pseudoephedrine, the key ingredient in illicit meth.

"The scourge of methamphetamine demands unconventional thinking and innovative solutions to fight the devastation it leaves behind," Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez said in announcing the administration's new meth proposals.

But the proposals would not be tough enough to stop people from "cooking" meth, lawmakers say.

The Bush plan also would not require that cold medicines be sold from behind pharmacy counters, a key part of congressional legislation proposed by Sen. Jim Talent, a Republican from Missouri, and Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California."

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"White House officials have focused more attention on marijuana.

"Methamphetamine causes much more destruction in a much shorter period of time," Grassley and Democratic Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware said in an Aug. 1 letter to national drug czar John Walters.

The Bush plan would limit consumers to 3.6 grams of pseudoephedrine — the equivalent of about 110 pills — in a single purchase. The limit in the Talent-Feinstein bill is 250 pills per month.

Grassley said the administration's plan shows that White House officials are "listening more to Wal-Mart than to the economic and social problems" caused by meth.

The administration plan also would provide $16.2 million for meth treatment programs in seven states — California, Tennessee, Oregon, Texas, Montana, Georgia, and New Mexico.

But President Bush's proposed fiscal 2006 budget would substantially cut anti-meth programs, another source of congressional anger.

"We are going to defeat you in the budget process and debate process until you cry uncle," Souder said last week in comments directed at the administration.

House and Senate lawmakers began taking steps last month to maintain or increase funding for meth-related programs that the Bush budget proposes cutting."

COMMENT: Do I detect a break in the ranks or just the realization of the law of Lame Duckery deferred?

4dk