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madison
August 5th, 2003, 08:12 AM
Please lock this thread.
pub1.ezboard.com/fmichell...7385.topic (http://pub1.ezboard.com/fmichellekwanforumrandomchat.showMessage?topicID=7 385.topic)
It will go bad very quickly.
Thank you.
NotMyProblem2003
August 5th, 2003, 08:13 AM
I don't like people dragging their personal business onto the boards either. But if her daughter is being cyber-stalked by a member of this board then she has a right to warn the members of this board. She could be doing you a favor.
On the other hand, I think Realistic needs to stop talking about her family so much to strangers. It’s a dangerous world and you don't know whose reading these boards.
realistic51
August 5th, 2003, 08:15 AM
guess what motherlode? The problem started on THIS board. The poster in question board dragged from the get-go. You may think locking my FYI thread is the answer. It isn't.
Would you like to have a member of MKF stalking you and defaming your child? Is that okay with you? Do you want to associate with that person on this forum? I'm sorry. I didn't ask for ANY of this, but now I am being cyber-stalked and my daughter insulted and slandered by a MKFer. So you tell me where I'm supposed to go to warn others that just might get on this person's bad side?
I'm sorry Heather. I only wanted to give a heads up so no one else gets involved in this.
realistic51
August 5th, 2003, 08:37 AM
You know what, notmyproblem, everything that happened for my daughter happened because the majority of the posters on this board and a couple of other boards were wonderful and cared. I DON'T discuss my family on any board at any length. But I did share about our favorite skater. And people offered addresses and suggestions that finally made meeting her fav skater a reality.
As far as it being a dangerous world, it's only dangerous if you're afraid all the time.
But don't you worry. I'm gone now. And that's all I have to say.
NotMyProblem2003
August 5th, 2003, 10:10 AM
You have some serious anger issues lady. You need to let some of this stuff go. I am sorry you are being stalked but you keep responding to this person and they keep going. Why don't you try good old fashion ignoring?
sk8cynic
August 5th, 2003, 10:25 AM
NMP, I believe Realistic did try to let things go. She doesn't want to cause Heather or the MKF and it's members any further strife.
However, in this case it is different. This particular MKF member deliberately hunted Realistic down at another board and assaulted her verbally, insulted and taunted Heather (who god knows doesn't need anymore insanity than she's already dealing with this off-season). She then took it a step further and told a teenager who posted on that board about her weight concerns that this young girl was indeed very fat and should just "puke it up." I'm sorry, but is that the kind of person you want representing the MKF? Do you really want a viper in your midst here?
True, what this person has done is horrible. I know that's funny coming from me, considering I have vented and said some rather nasty things regarding the behavior and the online personas of several people on the skating boards. The difference however, is that I don't instigate problems or issues. I choose whether or not to react, and should I choose to do so, I also choose the manner in which I confront someone about something I feel is out of line or deliberately inflammatory. I almost always try to provide an explanation for my response or statement.
Notice that I'm not here under a pseud. Notice also in my profile, that I don't have an inflammatory statement, nor do I have my PMs disabled. If someone has a problem with me they can PM me about it, and if a conflict or dispute can be resolved without dragging things onto a board, all the better. I guess, however, that some people, most pointedly the MKF member this whole debacle centers around, would prefer to hit, run, and then go cower away rather than stand by their statements and actions and take any lumps that might arise from behavior and statements they obviously know are cruel, deliberately insulting and vitriolic, and would most likely get them banned. A true example of what a coward really is.
Googoo
August 5th, 2003, 10:48 AM
I'm sorry, but is that the kind of person you want representing the MKF?
With all due sympathy for Realistic and for the issue, I hardly think that person, or any other person on this board, is an Ambassador for MKF lol. That would put an enormous responsibility on Moderators here if they were to ensure that all MKF posters are upstanding internet citizens. ;) I understand that Realistic wants people to be forewarned, but I'm not sure what you expect Heather or others to do here, sk8. What happens on other boards is what happens on other boards...
Hope I didn't offend anyone. Hang in there, Realistic.
NotMyProblem2003
August 5th, 2003, 11:15 AM
Not under a pseude... so your name is sk8cynic? :eek Tell your parents to buy a baby names book next time. On to the show, I think that what happened to Realistic is awful. I really do feel bad for her and her daughter, but I feel way worse for her daughter then her. I also think that she needs to keep her private life off of the Internet so that bad people will not hurt her or her daughter anymore. This is what Realistic does not want to hear. I think she is spoiling for a fight and so are you. Realistic said she is gone, so why bother coming over here and whining? Is the name of the board your from PITI or Petty? Let it go. She was wronged but I bet you are your ilk have wronged a lot of people too. At this point the horse is dead and so is every other animal on the farm. Everybody knows that a certain poster is bad bad bad, thank you Realistic. So let it be and give poor Heather a rest.
I don't care what posters do on other boards. I am sorry she said something so nasty about that persons weight but how does that apply to me? Please explain where that comes into my point of view. Does it make Realistics situation any different to me? No. It just makes the other poster look worse. I still think Realistic needs to keep more of her private life private. Especially now that there is some weirdo out to get her. You guys are determined to make me the bad guy. Fine, I'm bad. I'm so bad. Ooh look at how bad I am. See I have horns. :evil
Now can we return to regularly scheduled programming?
realistic51
August 5th, 2003, 11:16 AM
Understand this, nmp. Get it straight in your head. I am beyond anger.
You know, after reading your replies and those of other people who have said I shouldn't have shared anything about my daughter here, I will say this: I am sorry I EVER invited people from THIS forum to share in the delight and the visit that MAW gave to my daughter. If THIS is the type of reaction I get from fans of Michelle Kwan, then I'd rather be somewhere else.
Petty? Not me. I'm never petty. I pick my battles. My SOLE purpose for posting this was NOT to have Heather or any other person DO anything, but to forewarn others who may get on this person's bad side, that this poster is "bad news". That's all there is.
I can handle this. I was only being smart and letting others know of the potential for cyber-stalking by this poster.
You know, I thought people enjoyed sharing on this forum. I guess I was totally wrong. So many have shared about deaths, illnesses, etc. Yet I am chastised for doing the same thing. I'm not spoiling for a fight, nmp. I walk away from fights when I can. But this one was brought straight to my face. I don't back down.
Don't feel bad for me or my daughter. She doesn't want to post here anymore either. She says people were all nice and sweet when they knew she was going to have time with MK, but now they've turned around and backstabbed both of us. I agree. Not EVERYONE, but quite a few.
If you think I am whining, you'd better check your definitions. I am NOT. I am simply relaying that MKF has a poster who is going to other boards, using Heather's name, talking about the MKF in derogatory words and defaming my daughter all at once. I don't expect anyone to do anything. I just want you warned.
So, you've been warned. I hope this never happens to you. You don't have to have your life on the internet. You can say just ONE wrong thing and have someone stalk you.
Heather, thank you for allowing my family and I to share on your forum. I am absolutely done because I cannot abide people who misconstrue everything that is done and said. My agenda was innocent. I simply wanted to make everyone aware. Take it or leave it.
NotMyProblem2003
August 5th, 2003, 11:44 AM
Blah blah blah. Not everybody is going to agree with you. All I see is a grown woman having a temper tantrum. Grow up lady. I said I was sorry for your problems and even agreed with you informing us of a bad poster but yet you're abusing me and others because we don't agree with everything you are saying 100%. It's sad. You want everyone to experience your pain. No thanks. I have enough pain in my life. :|
My last post was 90% pointed towards another poster but you took it upon yourself to get angry for him or her. Did I mention you have an anger issues? :eek Maybe you didn't notice but I didn't called you petty or whiny, but yet you think I did. Are you pseuding Sk8whatever? Well I don't know what would make you feel better Realistic but I suspect your so called friends are not doing you any favors by saying you're right. I bet most of them think the same thing I do, they just don't want to arouse your temper. To bad, you could use an honest opinion. Then again what are the chances you would actually listen to it? :rolleyes
sk8cynic
August 5th, 2003, 11:45 AM
Googoo, You brought up some excellent points in your post. This whole situation is difficult, and to some extent, I don't think most people know exactly what they want, except for the nonsense to end (and for the skating season to begin, lol). I don't expect that everyone is expected to be an ambassador to MKF as that is truly a far-fetched idea. What I do know is that it seems that MKF has taken a beating over the past 6 months, which in my book is not cool. The behavior by this person is only adding fuel to that particular fire and there are likely several detractors of MKF and Heather that are watching this drama unfold with glee, and that is truly sad. I guess what I personally would like to see happen, given that person's behavior here over the past couple of weeks, and their subsequent cyberstalking and harassment to another board (at which place they board-dragged by trash talking Heather and this forum), that this person should be banned from here to avoid future conflicts.
NMP2003, I will respond to your post shortly. Not trying to be impolite here, I just have dinner to get to, and I would rather have your post where I can see it to reply properly. ;)
NotMyProblem2003
August 5th, 2003, 12:00 PM
I doubt Heather gives a rat's toosh about board dragging at any other board then the MKF. Bring it here then beware, bring it there then who cares? That is the real issue here. If the poster in question does something here then Heather will deal with it. Stop treating Heather like the skating board police. As for other boards enjoying this, who cares? Why should anybody care about that stuff? Somebody acted insensitive and you want Heather to give that person a cyber spanking. Dress up the language anyway you please but that is really it. Does the bad poster in question know Realistic's real name, address, and employer? I bet she doesn't. She is just a nuisance that made her mad and now she wants all of us to bad mad too. Fine I am mad that someone would be that much of a low class scum to make fun of a person with a sick child. But if you bring your private life out in the open then expect bad stuff to happen, ask any famous person. Now feel free to go back to you're boards and call me names. That's fine, because they're your boards and that's where it belongs.
realistic51
August 5th, 2003, 12:01 PM
NMP, whatever! Believe what you like. I could care less.
:rollin
Shallah
August 5th, 2003, 12:05 PM
anyone who would put down MKF because of current problems would put it down for any reason which makes them troll like and are not worth paying attention to. being concered about the opinions of those who won't like you no matter what you do is a waste of time and energy. Every board has issues like this perodically especially larger ones. Just like you can't judge a city by a few people from one part of it you can't judge MKF by just a few posters and again if someone is unwise enough to do that well that is their problem.
As with the degaobah incident then as now don't assume just because you think you are safely venting on a different board that the people you don't want to see what you are saying aren't watching or someone won't share that info with them. Nothing is top secret on the internet. Word spreads whether you want it too or not. As in real life some people are wonderful and some are not. Expect to meet both. Report abuse to board moderators and if it violates ezboard's terms of use report it here as well:
www.ezboard.com/corporate...ofuse.html (http://www.ezboard.com/corporate/legal_termsofuse.html)
NotMyProblem2003
August 5th, 2003, 12:10 PM
NMP, whatever! Believe what you like. I could care less.
Really? Then why do you keep responding? You said you were done with this place and have since posted twice. You do care, the problem is just way too much.
alightbulbwentoff
August 5th, 2003, 12:23 PM
cliche I know. but I was stunned
Nice to see you're still posting notmyproblem. Why the change in username?
jessie4
August 5th, 2003, 12:48 PM
I feel bad for Fantastic 51 and have for a long time. She brouht
this up on another board on a daily basic until I did not enjoy
reading her posts then she seems to have left the other board
except once in a while after her trip to see Michelle after money was
raised for trip etc. I know it is sad but on a skating board over
and over.I also want to say if any stalking is going on its against the law.
sk8cynic
August 5th, 2003, 01:13 PM
NMP03,
Not under a pseude... so your name is sk8cynic? Tell your parents to buy a baby names book next time.
As you have made clear, putting personal info out on the Internet can be unsafe. Perhaps I should have clarified - I would not put my real name out on a forum. I'm posting here as my userID, I'm not posting behind an additional pseud (as you apparently are, I might add). There's no need for sarcasm - I was being diplomatic with you, and now you insult my folks. Nice touch. :lol
I think she is spoiling for a fight and so are you.
ROFL!!! I'm not spoiling for a fight at all. I simply call foul when I see it, which in this particular case applies. I am angry about this primarily one reason - deplorable, meritless, vindictive behavior on the part of one party of whom the main victim is Lexi. At least you and I are in agreement that that was inexcusable.
I don't like people dragging their personal business onto the boards either. But if her daughter is being cyber-stalked by a member of this board then she has a right to warn the members of this board. She could be doing you a favor.
I couldn't agree with you more.
Are you pseuding Sk8whatever?
I realize the post this came from was addressed to Realistic, but since you're now accusing me of pseuding, for the record, I'm not.
Realistic said she is gone, so why bother coming over here and whining?
I'm not whining. I'd expect someone like you to know the difference. ;)
Is the name of the board your from PITI or Petty? Let it go. She was wronged but I bet you are your ilk have wronged a lot of people too.
Now who is board dragging? For someone who claims not to care what goes on elsewhere you sure seem to have a (and I *ack* as I use this term, lol) vested interest in this whole mess. I didn't bring the forum you mentioned in the above quote into this thread as they have nothing to do with this specific matter. Consider YOURSELF reported, luv!!
MMMMMM, tastes like chicken.
What's next? Pock, pock, pock? :lol
Anyways, that's enough for now, my dear. Best be going before I graduate from "ilk" to a "nabob" or a "churl". :rollin
NotMyProblem2003
August 5th, 2003, 02:39 PM
As you have made clear, putting personal info out on the Internet can be unsafe. Perhaps I should have clarified - I would not put my real name out on a forum. I'm posting here as my userID, I'm not posting behind an additional pseud (as you apparently are, I might add). There's no need for sarcasm - I was being diplomatic with you, and now you insult my folks. Nice touch.
I was joking too. You seem to think you know me, if you did you would have known that. As for being diplomatic, that's totally me. Hit the issue not the poster. You were and are whining, incessantly too. As for your ilk, that would be the ones who won't let an issue go or just keep bringing up the same BS over and over again after you were told not too. I happen to think that you and Realistic are acting petty it just so happens its sounds like PITI. Lucky for me. :rollin
I am angry about this primarily one reason - deplorable, meritless, vindictive behavior on the part of one party of whom the main victim is Lexi. (http://)
No, the main victim is not Lexi. Its Lexi's mom. She should have kept her daughter off the net and the PM was sent to Realistic. If Realistic chooses to share what happened with you and Lexi then she subsequently makes her daughter a victim. Now everybody has to be outraged because somebody said something mean about Lexi. Let me ask you a question? In any given day how many bad things do you say about other posters? How many of those posters have severe mental problems? I know of one right off the top of my head, does that stop you from making fun of her? Pot. Kettle. Black.
I realize the post this came from was addressed to Realistic, but since you're now accusing me of pseuding, for the record, I'm not.
I was not accusing you of anything, just bringing up the hypocrisy in your statement. I still think that it's hypocritical. Psuede or ID I still don't know who the heck you are.
I'm not whining. I'd expect someone like you to know the difference.
You are whining and I would expect someone who can read to know the difference. This stuff is so minor it’s sad yet you guys are making a federal case out of it. A meanie PM was sent, she didn't send a hit man to her house. Sticks and stones. Send a message to ezboard and let them deal with it. . .
My only user name is NotMyProblem. It was local for a long time till I decided to make it global. You don't like it or believe me? Well that's NotMyProblem. :hat Hah, I'm laughing.
As for the lightbulb person, I think I know who you are too. Thomas Edison. Right?
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