View Full Version : Jindal Calls Obama's Plan Irresponsible
Solidarity
February 25th, 2009, 12:12 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29374285/
A breath of fresh air! It is nice to hear someone speak without the uh's and ah's and um's.
JerryStopher
February 25th, 2009, 01:13 PM
What I think it irresponsible is Bobby Jindal trying to refuse the help for Louisiana's unemployed.
Solidarity
February 25th, 2009, 03:12 PM
But is it more irresponsible than saying here is $787 million dollars -- divided amongst the states - you guys decide how to spend it.
Seems to me -- just like the banks/ auto industries had to show how they were going to spend their bailout - that the states should have a fiduciary responsibility. Then the request would be bottom up instead and accountability held there as well.
LyraKwangelica
February 25th, 2009, 04:52 PM
Bobby Jindal should shut his trap, he looks like an idiot. He's been given millions to help his state and he turns some of it down...............some, that's the keyword here. He goes on TV and blasts Obama for it, yet takes the money anyway. "How dare you shove this money down my throat...I'll take it anyway though!" Doesn't that seem a bit foolish?
trueurbanite
February 25th, 2009, 07:26 PM
Thanks, Solidarity, for posting the article. I'm so glad that there are people like Jindal who aren't afraid to speak about something they don't agree with. I didn't see the address last night; I knew the news would highlight the more famous moments. Glad to see Jindal was a part of that. It was much better than watching Pelosi in the background, standing I don't know how many times to clap. Could her smirk be any more self-satisfying?
Lol, I'm watching the Simpsons now - the episode where the family is jailed for being "anti-American" - and there's an old man jailed with them saying, "I'm the last registered democrat. Tax and spend! Tax and spend!" Just a comical observation.
moxie
February 25th, 2009, 08:09 PM
But is it more irresponsible than saying here is $787 million dollars -- divided amongst the states - you guys decide how to spend it.
Each governor, as part of each state budget & also for the Recovery web site, will have to account for every dollar spent. I heard a news item this morning that Minnesota has already used part of its funds to save the jobs of 50+ Minneapolis police officers who were due for layoffs this week (i'll try to track that down); if every state does that, it's 2,500 job layoffs (and possibly hundreds of foreclosures) that will have been stopped in a matter of just days, with many more to come.
Edited to add: Obama used the Minnesota info in his speech but i also heard it elsewhere apart from the speech. I do know that there were states about to start laying off workers & will use part of this money to keep their staffs in place.
RA5CViggie
February 25th, 2009, 08:22 PM
It is nice to hear someone speak without the uh's and ah's and um's.
Since we're talking about the way people speak, I'll say that I kept waiting for Mr. McFeely and King Friday to show up.
"It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood, a beautiful day in the neighborhood..." :silly
Seriously, did he even listen to Obama's speech? I think he wrote that rebuttal before Obama spoke.
MichellianeKwanjuez
February 28th, 2009, 02:25 AM
I’d rather have Bobby Jindal who makes all the sense in the world as my President than the irrational...........
And look, our Vice President, Joe Biden, got caught with his foot in his mouth again.
http://www.ksla.com/global/video/flash/popupplayer.asp?ClipID1=3487238&h1=Reality%20check%20for%20VP%20Joe%20Biden&vt1=v&at1=News&d1=159267&LaunchPageAdTag=News&activePane=info&rnd=59061751
A heartbeat away from becoming our next president...and they had the gall to belittle Sarah Palin's highly respectable qualifications!
Sparks
February 28th, 2009, 11:22 AM
Is Bobby Jindal the future of the Republican party?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Jindal
On February 24, 2009 Jindal delivered the official Republican response [1]to President Obama's address to a joint session of Congress. Jindal called the president's economic stimulus plan “irresponsible” and argued against government intervention.[35] He used Hurricane Katrina to warn against government solutions to the economic crisis. "Today in Washington, some are promising that government will rescue us from the economic storms raging all around us," Jindal said. "Those of us who lived through Hurricane Katrina, we have our doubts." He praised the late sheriff Harry Lee for standing up to the government during Katrina. He complained that the nearly $800 billion stimulus bill included "$140 million for something called volcano monitoring." "Instead of monitoring volcanoes, what Congress should be monitoring is the eruption of spending in Washington," Jindal said.[36][37] Reactions to Jindal's speech and delivery were mostly negative, including those of fellow Republicans.[38][39] Conservative commentators were among the harshest critics, calling his speech "amateurish", "childish", "stale", "insane", "a flop", and "a disaster for the Republican Party".
Yeah. Who needs volcano monitoring? Ask the citizens of the western US and those in Alaska.
Remember the little Hurricaine Katrina story he told Tuesday night? It was a pack of lies.
Jindal Admits Katrina Story Was False
This is no minor difference. Jindal's presence in Lee's office during the crisis itself was a key element of the story's intended appeal, putting him at the center of the action during the maelstrom. Just as important, Jindal implied that his support for the sheriff helped ensure the rescue went ahead. But it turns out Jindal wasn't there at the key moment, and played no role in making the rescue happen.
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/02/jindal_admits_katrina_story_was_false.php
Is it considered rational for Jindal to take part in an Exorcism? Weird...
And where is Ann Coulter and her ilk? Jindal could be considered an "anchor baby" because his parents came to the U.S. while mom was pregnant with him, thus allowing them to stay in the country. ;)
JerryStopher
February 28th, 2009, 12:50 PM
i’d rather have bobby jindal who makes all the sense in the world as my president than the irrational........... hahahahahahahaha!!!
MichellianeKwanjuez
February 28th, 2009, 04:58 PM
Is Bobby Jindal the future of the Republican party? .....Reactions to Jindal's speech and delivery were mostly negative, including those of fellow Republicans. Conservative commentators were among the harshest critics, calling his speech "amateurish", "childish", "stale", "insane", "a flop", and "a disaster for the Republican Party".
Jindal had substance whereas Obama just had "eloquence." I'll choose the former at any time.
I know. It's pretty sad that other Republicans are calling Jindal all these kinds of names. Those fellow Republican-bashers need to set their priorities straight.
Remember the little Hurricaine Katrina story he told Tuesday night? It was a pack of lies.
Jindal Admits Katrina Story Was False
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/02/jindal_admits_katrina_story_was_false.php
Hey, did you know that Katrina ended the minute after the storm passed?
http://jimtreacher.com/archives/002008.html
Boy, TPM Muckraker really hedged their bets with this headline about Jindal's post-Obama speech on Tuesday night:
Jindal Admits Katrina Story Was False
"Of course not. Everybody knows that the event we now refer to as "Katrina" was strictly limited to the brief period of time when Louisiana residents could actually reach up and touch the hurricane. After that, the crisis was over! There were no problems at all. (And if there were, nobody directly blamed George Bush for any of them.) So for Jindal to say "during Katrina," when it was actually up to a week later according to Ben Smith at Politico, is obviously the basest, most contemptible sort of lie.
I don't know much about Jindal, and by all accounts his speech was excruciating. (I tried to watch some of it, but it was too awkward. He seems to be the inverse of Obama, in that he's much better at speaking extemporaneously than reading from a teleprompter. Which seems like a good thing, to me anyway.) But he's certainly on his way to passing one big test of presidential politics: withstanding a desperate, fact-twisting smear campaign. I doubt it'll be the last. Which will give him something to talk about with Palin, at least."
"P.S. And when Obama breaks his daily promise, that's totally not a lie. You just misunderstood what he meant."
"P.P.P.S. Sheriff Lee, on the record:"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wO5S5LGT1s&eurl=http://jimtreacher.com/archives/002008.html
Jindal could be considered an "anchor baby" because his parents came to the U.S. while mom was pregnant with him, thus allowing them to stay in the country. ;)
Sparks, please, be careful when you make this kind of statement. You may disagree with illegal aliens, but I don't think you would want to offend them in any way.
moxie
February 28th, 2009, 05:29 PM
Well, Jindal does fit the definition of "anchor baby"; I don't see how that could be viewed as offensive.
Unless we like some alien groups better than others ...
Sparks
February 28th, 2009, 05:48 PM
Sparks, please, be careful when you make this kind of statement. You may disagree with illegal aliens, but I don't think you would want to offend them in any way.
I put the term "anchor baby" in quotes because I do not use that term...it is a term developed by the Right Wing to prop up their anti-immigration stance.
I was simply wondering what the likes of Ann Coulter would say about the man who seems to be the future of the party.
Jindal implied he was in New Orleans during the aftermath of Katrina...he was not. Maybe his story was just embellished?
RA5CViggie
February 28th, 2009, 06:36 PM
Jindal's Office Tries To Spin Katrina Story, Digs Itself In Deeper (http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/02/jindals_office_tries_to_spin_katrina_story_digs_it .php)
EigthAv
March 3rd, 2009, 02:28 AM
Jindal will never get elected as president. He is Indian American........not a very popular ethnicity. He's recently been mocked in rather rude ways and I don't see the sensitivity police rushing to his rescue. He probably can't hit a 3 pointer and I doubt seriously that he has a solid 3 axel, much less a quad. You need those big 3 pointers and to be able to skate strongly on the issues to win and Bobby is bit wiggly.
I like him, but that's me. He seems more like a regular guy and I like regular guys. Sometimes I honestly believe I could put on a blindfold and pick a more effective congress from the phonebook than what we have had in dee cee for the past 10 years and that we may have to begin to consider out-sourcing the presidency.
As to accepting money we don't actually have to "save the present"? What about the future? I need some help here.......... what comes after trillion? We have been selling off and mortgaging away America now for years. Krushev was partially correct. He didn't take us without firing a shot, but we are being taken. We are being bought out.
Take a good look at our main sponsers and get prepared to serve them in the future. Personally, I have no problems with bowing to the Chinese and the Japanese. I have served for most of my life and am somehwhat institutionalized. Authority is a position and is to be respected.
We can point fingers and sling blame all over the place, but we are all in it. We had it and we blew it. Now people from older, wiser nations are having to step in and try to save "America". I certainly don't resent them, I thank God for them.
Indian Americans have arrived a bit quietly. Not asking for handouts and not lashing out so much when thay are mocked and satired. "The meek shall inherit the Earth"? It makes sense to me that India, China and Japan will eventually control the USA. It is logical.
I'm looking at another 1.9 trillion on top of a federal deficit that already exceeds 10 trillion. Yes, enough money to buy us out. Lock, stock and barrel. It's a done deal, not a new deal. Get used to it.
Our history books are already being re-written to demonize all the Euro Americans as having stolen the nation. So isn't it poetic justice for us to lose?
Our young children are being conditioned for the coming regime changes. New flags will appear and someone will come on telvision to announce the change and point us to where we can look for our new rules. Talking heads will tell us what us what to do we will obey.
rbpier
March 3rd, 2009, 09:39 PM
You know it is ironic that I just got finished reading Brave New World again. Everyone should re-read this book. Frightening. One of the main themes is to give up freedom for the sake of societal stability. Give up individual accomplishment and individual responsibility for the sake of societal stability and uniformity. Interesting.
MichellianeKwanjuez
March 5th, 2009, 03:08 AM
Jindal will never get elected as president...
Oh, he will if Obama continues this dead end cycle and if he runs in 2012.
As to accepting money we don't actually have to "save the present"? What about the future? I need some help here.......... what comes after trillion?...
Trillion=1,000,000,000,000
Quadrillion=1,000,000,000,000,000
So many zeros... -sigh-
Take a good look at our main sponsers and get prepared to serve them in the future..."The meek shall inherit the Earth"? It makes sense to me that India, China and Japan will eventually control the USA. It is logical.
It's wonderful to be multi-lingual, but I wish they were languages I already knw. Darn it! Arigato gozaimasu...Japanese is not bad, but Indian (Hindi?) and Chinese will be a little difficult to learn, I think.
...Our history books are already being re-written to demonize all the Euro Americans as having stolen the nation. So isn't it poetic justice for us to lose?
Thank you for pointing this out, Mr. Mike, but I truly hope we do not lose our once-godly-nation.
rbpier:You know it is ironic that I just got finished reading Brave New World again. Everyone should re-read this book. Frightening. One of the main themes is to give up freedom for the sake of societal stability. Give up individual accomplishment and individual responsibility for the sake of societal stability and uniformity. Interesting.
I love classic literatures 'cause they are filled with life lessons I could take to heart. We should cling onto real history books as well in order for us to never repeat the same mistake twice. Apparently President Obama never studied the aftermaths of FDR's New Deal.
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