Worlds: Ladies' Qualifying Results/Discussion

[ElkGroveGroovin]

Results now coming in...

Ladies

Ranking After Qualifying

FPl. Name Nat. Points QB QA SP FS
1 Joannie ROCHETTE CAN 29.28 1
2 Fumie SUGURI JPN 28.47 1
3 Kimmie MEISSNER USA 28.46 2
4 Yukari NAKANO JPN 27.79 2
5 Sasha COHEN USA 27.59 3
6 Emily HUGHES USA 25.68 3
7 Carolina KOSTNER ITA 25.64 4
8 Kiira KORPI FIN 25.44 5
9 Mira LEUNG CAN 24.77 4
10 Sarah MEIER SUI 24.64 5
11 Elena SOKOLOVA RUS 24.42 6
12 Yoshie ONDA JPN 23.39 6
13 Idora HEGEL CRO 23.26 7
14 Susanna POYKIO FIN 23.13 7
15 Viktoria PAVUK HUN 21.31 8
16 Yan LIU CHN 21.16 8
17 Elene GEDEVANISHVILI GEO 20.72 9
18 Nadege BOBILLIER FRA 19.89 9
19 Amanda NYLANDER SWE 19.79 10
20 Julia SEBESTYEN HUN 19.77 11
21 Annette DYTRT GER 19.47 10
22 Valentina MARCHEI ITA 19.12 12
23 Anastasia GIMAZETDINOVA UZB 19.00 11
24 Teodora POSTIC SLO 18.96 12
25 Arina MARTINOVA RUS 18.95 13
26 Tugba KARADEMIR TUR 18.94 14
27 Katarina GERBOLDT RUS 17.58 13
28 Galina EFREMENKO UKR 16.22 14
29 Michelle CANTU MEX 15.98 15
30 Andrea KREUZER AUT 15.89 15




LADIES' QUALIFYING GROUP A RESULTS

http://www.isufs.org/results/wc2006/SEG005.HTM

1 Fumie SUGURI JPN 113.88 57.80 56.08 7.25 6.75 7.00 7.00 7.05 0.00 #8
2 Kimmie MEISSNER USA 113.84 60.80 53.04 6.75 6.40 6.75 6.65 6.60 0.00 #10
3 Sasha COHEN USA 110.36 53.00 59.36 7.50 7.20 7.40 7.45 7.55 2.00 #12
4 Mira LEUNG CAN 99.06 53.62 45.44 5.80 5.60 5.60 5.70 5.70 0.00 #19
5 Sarah MEIER SUI 98.54 49.10 49.44 6.35 6.05 6.20 6.05 6.25 0.00 #9
6 Yoshie ONDA JPN 93.54 48.82 44.72 5.90 5.30 5.60 5.65 5.50 0.00 #11
7 Susanna POYKIO FIN 92.52 44.60 47.92 6.15 5.70 6.00 6.05 6.05 0.00 #14
8 Viktoria PAVUK HUN 85.24 47.48 37.76 4.95 4.55 4.65 4.70 4.75 0.00 #3
9 Nadege BOBILLIER FRA 79.56 43.80 35.76 4.60 4.25 4.55 4.45 4.50 0.00 #13
10 Amanda NYLANDER SWE 79.16 45.00 34.16 4.45 4.10 4.20 4.35 4.25 0.00 #1
11 Julia SEBESTYEN HUN 79.08 36.04 43.04 5.65 5.10 5.40 5.40 5.35 0.00 #6
12 Valentina MARCHEI ITA 76.46 41.18 35.28 4.60 4.30 4.30 4.45 4.40 0.00 #16
13 Arina MARTINOVA RUS 75.80 38.64 38.16 4.90 4.55 4.80 4.85 4.75 1.00 #15
14 Tugba KARADEMIR TUR 75.74 41.86 34.88 4.45 4.20 4.45 4.35 4.35 1.00 #17
15 Michelle CANTU MEX 63.92 32.60 32.32 4.05 3.90 4.00 4.10 4.15 1.00 #2
16 Miriam MANZANO AUS 63.52 32.84 31.68 4.15 3.80 3.90 4.00 3.95 1.00 #4
17 Roxana LUCA ROM 62.10 30.70 32.40 4.20 3.90 4.05 4.05 4.05 1.00 #5
18 Jacqueline BELENYESIOVA SVK 53.12 26.96 28.16 3.65 3.35 3.50 3.65 3.45 2.00 #20
19 Alisa KIREEVA UKR 49.94 21.94 28.00 3.65 3.40 3.40 3.60 3.45 0.00 #21
20 Jenna-Anne BUYS RSA 49.38 22.30 30.08 3.85 3.60 3.75 3.85 3.75 3.00 #7
21 Elena MUHHINA EST 42.32 17.56 27.76 3.65 3.40 3.40 3.45 3.45 3.00 #22


LADIES' QUALIFYING GROUP B RESULTS

http://www.isufs.org/results/wc2006/SEG006.HTM

1 Joannie ROCHETTE CAN 117.12 62.00 55.12 6.95 6.80 6.85 6.90 6.95 0.00 #20
2 Yukari NAKANO JPN 111.14 60.10 51.04 6.60 6.20 6.35 6.35 6.40 0.00 #4
3 Emily HUGHES USA 102.72 53.16 50.56 6.40 6.10 6.45 6.35 6.30 1.00 #15
4 Carolina KOSTNER ITA 102.56 49.60 52.96 7.00 6.35 6.50 6.65 6.60 0.00 #14
5 Kiira KORPI FIN 101.74 53.34 48.40 6.30 5.80 6.10 6.00 6.05 0.00 #19
6 Elena SOKOLOVA RUS 97.68 48.96 48.72 6.35 5.85 6.20 6.00 6.05 0.00 #1
7 Idora HEGEL CRO 93.04 51.52 41.52 5.35 5.00 5.20 5.25 5.15 0.00 #3
8 Yan LIU CHN 84.64 42.00 42.64 5.70 5.25 5.35 5.10 5.25 0.00 #2
9 Elene GEDEVANISHVILI GEO 82.86 38.90 44.96 5.90 5.40 5.60 5.60 5.60 1.00 #13
10 Annette DYTRT GER 77.88 36.84 43.04 5.45 5.25 5.50 5.45 5.25 2.00 #22
11 Anastasia GIMAZETDINOVA UZB 76.00 41.44 34.56 4.75 4.20 4.35 4.20 4.10 0.00 #10
12 Teodora POSTIC SLO 75.84 42.64 33.20 4.45 4.10 4.10 4.10 4.00 0.00 #11
13 Katarina GERBOLDT RUS 70.32 37.28 35.04 4.60 4.10 4.40 4.40 4.40 2.00 #16
14 Galina EFREMENKO UKR 64.86 26.94 39.92 5.25 5.10 4.80 4.90 4.90 2.00 #7
15 Andrea KREUZER AUT 63.56 33.40 32.16 4.35 3.95 4.05 3.95 3.80 2.00 #5
16 Tammy SUTAN THA 59.32 29.64 31.68 4.15 3.85 4.00 3.95 3.85 2.00 #21
17 Sonia RADEVA BUL 58.24 28.32 31.92 4.25 3.80 4.00 3.95 3.95 2.00 #18
18 Diane CHEN TPE 54.64 28.08 26.56 3.50 3.05 3.35 3.50 3.20 0.00 #8
19 Ksenia JASTSENJSKI SCG 53.80 26.20 27.60 3.75 3.35 3.35 3.50 3.30 0.00 #12
20 Ji Eun CHOI KOR 52.90 24.22 29.68 3.90 3.30 3.85 3.75 3.75 1.00 #17
21 Olga ZADVORNOVA LAT 50.88 25.08 26.80 3.60 3.20 3.35 3.30 3.30 1.00 #6
22 Laura FERNANDEZ ESP 47.06 20.34 30.72 4.10 3.65 3.80 3.90 3.75 4.00 #9

[sw3]

Aw, man. The first thing I saw when I opened the thread was the name "Michelle" in first group. My heart actually skipped a beat, but then I realized it was Michelle Cantu from Mexico. Oh well. I knew it wasn't possible anyway.

[missmarysgarden]

I am pulling for Elene Gedevanishvili!!! I love this skater!!! I don't think she has a chance at gold - nor do I think the judges would give it to her if she legitimately won it (the "wait your turn" policy is still alive and well, nestled in the PCS) - but I do think she could medla. If she does well, the skate order will not be favorable to Emily - who lacks everything that shines in Elene!

[lavender]

I am pulling for Elene Gedevanishvili!!! I love this skater!!! I don't think she has a chance at gold - nor do I think the judges would give it to her if she legitimately won it (the "wait your turn" policy is still alive and well, nestled in the PCS) - but I do think she could medla. If she does well, the skate order will not be favorable to Emily - who lacks everything that shines in Elene!

We can hope....


Emily should be below Elena, Elene, Nakano, Rochette and Kostner at least.

Also Emily's stronger in the short program...not the long.

[sw3]

From which country does Elene Gedevanishvili come? Is she the one from the Oly's that did pretty good?

[ScrappyTheOwl]

Elene's from Georgia. She did pretty well at the Olympics (6th in Short, 13th in Long). She should do well in the short at Worlds ... she just has this habit of running out of energy in the second half of her long program, and/or popping/doubling.

[missmarysgarden]

Elene is from the Republic of Georgia. And yes, she was the big surprise at the Olympics, and the latest international sweetheart of skating! The judges love her, the fans love her, I love her! My only concern is wondering where she is in the puberty project. She is wonderfully athletic and still very petite and feminine, powerful, beguiling, refreshing. But given her age, if she is still pre-puberty, she could have a real struggle. She's awfully - I guess one would say "small." But for now, she captured my attention and my heart. And I think that barring injury, she could be in the next "Big 3" - Mao, Kim, and Gedevanishvili. Yeah, I would stay around skating for that!

[MFarone]

Thanks for posting the groups :clap . I am so out of the loop on this, I don't even know what day the ladies skate or what time. Just don't have quite the same level of interest since Michelle is not skating this year :sad.

Maureen

[shine]

And I think that barring injury, she could be in the next "Big 3" - Mao, Kim, and Gedevanishvili. Yeah, I would stay around skating for that!
Well, Kostner and Rochette are not exactly dead.

[missmarysgarden]

Shine, I disagree. I think that Kostner for sure is pretty much "dead." I like Joannie, but she is no spring chicken, and she just doesn't seem to have the "top three" goods.

We'll all have our favorites - and its normal for them to be different. I'm looking for something interesting enough to make me part with travel money - and it definitely won't be Rochette or Kostner. I have never seen anything in Kostner but speed and gangliness. She seems like a nice girl. Joannie has real class, and she is very pretty, and powerful - qualities I like in a lady skater. But something is missing for me. She has a sort of hot rod quality that sometimes lacks finesse. I would be happy for her if she continued to improve and did well - but I won't spend money to see it it just might happen. Kostner - I really dislike her skating.

[lavender]

Elene is from the Republic of Georgia. And yes, she was the big surprise at the Olympics, and the latest international sweetheart of skating! The judges love her, the fans love her, I love her! My only concern is wondering where she is in the puberty project. She is wonderfully athletic and still very petite and feminine, powerful, beguiling, refreshing. But given her age, if she is still pre-puberty, she could have a real struggle. She's awfully - I guess one would say "small." But for now, she captured my attention and my heart. And I think that barring injury, she could be in the next "Big 3" - Mao, Kim, and Gedevanishvili. Yeah, I would stay around skating for that!

ITA with everything word in your post.

I also agree with u about Joannie and Kostner. Both are sweet girls but without that 'something special' factor for me. Both are still better than Emily.

I wish Joannie would have gone back to Firebird or whatever program that grab the audience. She would fare better using that program.

[jenaj]

[QUOTE=missmarysgarden]Shine, I disagree. I think that Kostner for sure is pretty much "dead." I like Joannie, but she is no spring chicken, and she just doesn't seem to have the "top three" goods.


I thought Joannie was only 20. Am I wrong?

[Krista]

most skaters, if they don't have it by 20, they aren't going to have it. there are a few exceptions like Irina and Maria though.

[missmarysgarden]

Lavendar, I agree about Firebird. That program was so exciting and powerful, and really was a great vehicle for her strengths. I just don't think her new program works for her - its not bad, but not that great.

Krista, I agree with you about age 20. That's the sort of critical age, I think. Sad to think of 20 as "old", but I think by age 16, most lady skaters have what they are going to have, and its a question of developing some maturity and sophistication over the next 3 or 4 years. I want to say, "Joannie, prove me wrong!" But I can't think of any examples of ladies being significantly better at 20 than they were at 16 or 17. Carolina has gone downhill, if anything. Jennie went downhill. Angela was at her best around 16/17; her artistry improved but her skating stagnated. Jenny Don? Everyone raved about her at 14 and 15. Onda and Ando petered out. Julia is one exception I can think of; I think she was better at 21; she just sort of got a little better every year, then reached her max...and has been decllining. Where was the promise of Sokolova? of Vika?

That's why Michelle's longevity amazes me. She was improving right up to the time that injury became her nemesis.

[magicalhaven]

I agree with you missmary. Michelle was improving. Although there will always be someone who says she wasn't. Her skating has taken so many shapes. Within the last few years her jumps were higher and she increased her speed.

Actually, Irina improved also (after 20). Although I think her improvements were on a smaller scale.

[Katty52]

Is anyone else having problems with Eurosport audio?

I also think Michelle is improving with age. I think after they hit 20 they really have a grasp on what life is all about and not just mememe, well for some that is.

[sric]

LADIES' QUALIFYING GROUP A STARTING ORDER

http://www.isufs.org/results/wc2006/SEG005.HTM

Warm-Up Group 1
1 Amanda NYLANDER SWE
2 Michelle CANTU MEX
3 Viktoria PAVUK HUN
4 Miriam MANZANO AUS
5 Roxana LUCA ROM

Warm-Up Group 2
6 Julia SEBESTYEN HUN
7 Jenna-Anne BUYS RSA
8 Fumie SUGURI JPN
9 Sarah MEIER SUI
10 Kimmie MEISSNER USA

Warm-Up Group 3
11 Yoshie ONDA JPN
12 :Z Sasha COHEN :Z USA
13 Nadege BOBILLIER FRA
14 Susanna POYKIO FIN
15 Arina MARTINOVA RUS
16 Valentina MARCHEI ITA

Warm-Up Group 4
17 Tugba KARADEMIR TUR
18 Kristina MIKHAILOVA BLR
19 Mira LEUNG CAN
20 Jacqueline BELENYESIOVA SVK
21 Alisa KIREEVA UKR
22 Elena MUHHINA EST

LADIES' QUALIFYING GROUP B STARTING ORDER

http://www.isufs.org/results/wc2006/SEG006.HTM

Warm-Up Group 1
1 Elena SOKOLOVA RUS
2 Yan LIU CHN
3 Idora HEGEL CRO
4 Yukari NAKANO JPN
5 Andrea KREUZER AUT

Warm-Up Group 2
6 Olga ZADVORNOVA LAT
7 Galina EFREMENKO UKR
8 Diane CHEN TPE
9 Laura FERNANDEZ ESP
10 Anastasia GIMAZETDINOVA UZB

Warm-Up Group 3
11 Teodora POSTIC SLO
12 Ksenia JASTSENJSKI SCG
13 Elene GEDEVANISHVILI GEO
14 Carolina KOSTNER ITA
15 Emily HUGHES USA
16 Katarina GERBOLDT RUS

Warm-Up Group 4
17 Ji Eun CHOI KOR
18 Sonia RADEVA BUL
19 Kiira KORPI FIN
20 Joannie ROCHETTE CAN
21 Tammy SUTAN THA
22 Annette DYTRT GER


Thanks for posting the groups. I just highlighted the skaters I will be watching, and planning for refrigerator break :D
Go Kimmie for the 3/3

[Krista]

Is anyone else having problems with Eurosport audio?

I also think Michelle is improving with age. I think after they hit 20 they really have a grasp on what life is all about and not just mememe, well for some that is.


I was having problems with Eurosport yesterday. Couldn't get it to play. I haven't tried it today.

[iceman]

Well, Kostner and Rochette are not exactly dead.


Some miss their golden chance--and I suspect these are two who have.

[isk8fan]

Trouble with Eurosport audio?

YES. Can't get any yesterday or today. Any suggestions?

[ScrappyTheOwl]

I agree with you missmary. Michelle was improving. Although there will always be someone who says she wasn't. Her skating has taken so many shapes. Within the last few years her jumps were higher and she increased her speed.

Actually, Irina improved also (after 20). Although I think her improvements were on a smaller scale.

Arakawa also improved after age 20.

[daisies]

Wow, I had no idea Tammy Sutan was still skating ... and for another country! What is THA? Thailand?

[KwansPrayerWarrior]

Warm-Up Group 4
17 Tugba KARADEMIR TUR

Wait, is this good or is this group for people who really won't even make the top 10....so they make them skate first... :eek UGH! NO!!!!

And, is Qualifying Group A or B better to be in? And why is Sasha in Group A? :D

[cweaks]

This link will give you a guide to the televised portions of the Competition.

http://heatherw.com/mk/sch.htm

[KwansPrayerWarrior]

Found this funny pic of Fumie Suguri warming up. It looks like she is holding her leg going: "Owwww, I broke it" :D

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/060319/483/cnbm10703190127 --- her arm muscles.... :eek Geezo Peezo :eek

[MKandNYYfan]

And, is Qualifying Group A or B better to be in? And why is Sasha in Group A? :D

Qualifying groups are placed based on placements from the previous years' Worlds. Irina won, so she would've been in Group A, Sasha Group B, Caro Group A, Michelle Group B and so on. Since Irina is not attending, Sasha is the next highest finisher and therefore starts off the selection. Then the unseeded skaters are placed alphabatically by Country, then name, but I'm not sure which Country starts it off, Canada since it's the host?

The top 3 of each qualifier end up in the last skate group for the LP. The only real problem this now is that under COP, scores are carried over, not placements, so even if a skater has the 4th highest score overall, and is in 4th for their QR, they will still have to skate in the 2nd to last group.

[MarkyBoy36]

Arakawa also improved after age 20.

well...the exception can be made for certain skaters. I've noticed, if they've had some success at all they improve out of excitement and encouragement that they might have more success (Shizuka winning the 2004 worlds...then she won the 2006 Olympics). Joannie is beautiful, but is very bland (except for the Firebird). Carolina absolutely drives me up the wall. She's got the most emotionless face when she skates, her costumes don't do a thing for her, and her skating is sloppy. Sorry if i offended anyone, JMO

OH...and...quit bashing Sasha...she's all we really have left in skating anymore...if Michelle doesn't come back...it surely won't be Kimmie or Emily winning big world competitions for the USA - it'll be Sasha. Be thankful for her

[ParalegalMKFan]

OH...and...quit bashing Sasha...she's all we really have left in skating anymore...if Michelle doesn't come back...it surely won't be Kimmie or Emily winning big world competitions for the USA - it'll be Sasha. Be thankful for her

I'm not a Sasha fan and I am not thankful for her. She does absolutely nothing for me and if that's bashing, oh well. :P

[Deetlebug]

Um, ok.....the ladies qualifiers aren't even until tomorrow and we're already up to 2 pages of replies?

Wow! Just think how long this thread would be with Michelle, Irina and Shizuka competing.

deetles

ps - go Tugba!!!! I wanna see you make it to the long program. :)

[kazenoyume]

OH...and...quit bashing Sasha...she's all we really have left in skating anymore...if Michelle doesn't come back...it surely won't be Kimmie or Emily winning big world competitions for the USA - it'll be Sasha. Be thankful for her

Or we could just root for who we like, American or not. Call me unpatriotic, but I could care less what country a skater is from when I make my judgement in if I'm rooting for them. I am not thankful for her and would rather see USA not win the big competitions if she's our representative. Let the best skaters win, American or not.

And I do believe Kimmie has the goods to make it big time.

I agree about Carolina, but not about Joannie. She is a beautiful and captivating performer.

[redvispa]

I actually love JR's programs this year much more than in previous years -- If you've had a chance to read her online diary, she tells a touching story about the music she selected for this year's long -- and I looove her short program -- what can I say, I'm a Madonna fan :D

I'm hoping that the fact that worlds is in Calgary doesn't put too much pressure on her...

[KwansPrayerWarrior]

Um, ok.....the ladies qualifiers aren't even until tomorrow and we're already up to 2 pages of replies?

Wow! Just think how long this thread would be with Michelle, Irina and Shizuka competing.

deetles

ps - go Tugba!!!! I wanna see you make it to the long program. :)

I'll be like an expectant father waiting in the waiting room while the wife gives birth....complete with cigarettes and all.....waiting for Tuggy :D

[Disciple of KWAN]

I'm not a Sasha fan and I am not thankful for her. She does absolutely nothing for me and if that's bashing, oh well. :P


AHAHAHAHAHA, that was great! I'm thankful she is around to make me more thankful that we've had kwan!

[MKPerfect6.0]

I was happy when Shizuka won.
I'm not "thankful" for Sasha, in the skating world I like who I like wheather they are from Japan, Russia or USA.
I'm just not patriotic when it comes to skating.
I also think Kimmie might emerge next season a force to be reckoned with. I have a feeling she has gianed a lot of experience from this season.

[lavender]

Or we could just root for who we like, American or not. Call me unpatriotic, but I could care less what country a skater is from when I make my judgement in if I'm rooting for them. I am not thankful for her and would rather see USA not win the big competitions if she's our representative. Let the best skaters win, American or not.

Thank you. Who cares where the skaters are from. Michelle will always be my the fav but after her Elene, Yu-na and Mao are my distant favs coming up and they are all from different countries and I love it.

[skateworlds1]

Or we could just root for who we like, American or not. Call me unpatriotic, but I could care less what country a skater is from when I make my judgement in if I'm rooting for them. I am not thankful for her and would rather see USA not win the big competitions if she's our representative. Let the best skaters win, American or not.

And I do believe Kimmie has the goods to make it big time.

I agree about Carolina, but not about Joannie. She is a beautiful and captivating performer. Kaz, I've always thought this. The best skater deserves to win regardless of country. I can't tell you how many times I've taken serious heat for this opinion. I don't care what people think, never did. I don't need to be part of a crowd. BTW, could someone give Elene G's strong points? Is she a strong spinner or jumper? Thanks.

[ScrappyTheOwl]

Elene's a pretty well-rounded skater. She can do the triple-triples, she can get her levels up on her spins (which are pretty nice--she usually has good speed, doesn't drop her leg for donuts), she has a good musical sense at this point (should develop more).

She just has some stamina or concentration issues in the long--she can go out, hit her 2A+3T and her triple-triple, then pop some stuff or make some technical errors (at the Olympics, she did a third triple toe--which didn't count).

Fixing that should would come with time--with competitions and experience.

[lavender]

Elene's a pretty well-rounded skater. She can do the triple-triples, she can get her levels up on her spins (which are pretty nice--she usually has good speed, doesn't drop her leg for donuts), she has a good musical sense at this point (should develop more).

She just has some stamina or concentration issues in the long--she can go out, hit her 2A+3T and her triple-triple, then pop some stuff or make some technical errors (at the Olympics, she did a third triple toe--which didn't count).

Fixing that should would come with time--with competitions and experience.

ITA...I'm crossing my fingers.

[missmarysgarden]

Never wanting to miss an opportunity to be on the bandwagon, I just want to say "I LOVE ELENE GEDEVANISHVILI!" (And my good friends from Russia and Belarus have given their approval of my pronunciation of her last name!):D

[missmarysgarden]

Nice to know that I have lots of company in appreciating figure skaters for their excellence, not for their national identity. Lavendar, we could form our own fan club for the next big 3 - YuNa, Elene and Mao!

[lavender]

Nice to know that I have lots of company in appreciating figure skaters for their excellence, not for their national identity. Lavendar, we could form our own fan club for the next big 3 - YuNa, Elene and Mao!

:lol..


I still don't know how to say Elene's last name. It will come the more I hear it.

[ScrappyTheOwl]

I pronounce it "Gedda-vanish-villi" (gedda like "get a" with more of a 'd' than a 't' sound) ... anyone know if that's right?

[kittyjake5]

I agree with the above posts people should root for their favorite
regardless of what country they are from and may the best skater
win. In that vein of thought GO FUMIE!!!

[ShowMeTheKwan2]

Ladies Qualifying Group B has started. Results so far:

1 Elena SOKOLOVA RUS 97.68 48.96 48.72 6.35 5.85 6.20 6.00 6.05 0.00 #1
2 Idora HEGEL CRO 93.04 51.52 41.52 5.35 5.00 5.20 5.25 5.15 0.00 #3
3 Yan LIU CHN 84.64 42.00 42.64 5.70 5.25 5.35 5.10 5.25 0.00 #2

Yet to come:
4 Yukari NAKANO JPN
5 Andrea KREUZER AUT

Warm-Up Group 2
6 Olga ZADVORNOVA LAT
7 Galina EFREMENKO UKR
8 Diane CHEN TPE
9 Laura FERNANDEZ ESP
10 Anastasia GIMAZETDINOVA UZB

Warm-Up Group 3
11 Teodora POSTIC SLO
12 Ksenia JASTSENJSKI SCG
13 Elene GEDEVANISHVILI GEO
14 Carolina KOSTNER ITA
15 Emily HUGHES USA
16 Katarina GERBOLDT RUS

Warm-Up Group 4
17 Ji Eun CHOI KOR
18 Sonia RADEVA BUL
19 Kiira KORPI FIN
20 Joannie ROCHETTE CAN
21 Tammy SUTAN THA
22 Annette DYTRT GER

[ShowMeTheKwan2]

Nakano into the lead:

1 Yukari NAKANO JPN 111.14 60.10 51.04 6.60 6.20 6.35 6.35 6.40 0.00 #4

[cestlavie000000]

Please I am so NOT thankful for Sasha. The door can't hit her in the backside fast enough. Bubye!

[TMC8802]

People are being really mean to sasha!!!!

i'm very thankful she was at the olympics, at least she made things interesting...yes she may have made two big mistakes in her long program but it was alive, passionate, and beautiful even with the mistakes...even her passion coming around the corner before her triple loop, after she had already fallen twice, was incredible...she really sold herself and i loved it...enough said

i really hope carolina does well!! i think she's a good skater and CAN still become a great one...same for kimmie

[kwanluv]

Please focus on the qualifying round....not bashing skaters.
I will close this down if it continues.

[ScrappyTheOwl]

Gedevanishvili must have had a rough skate--82.86 for 6th at the moment. 1.00 deduction--probably a fall.

1 Yukari NAKANO JPN 111.14 60.10 51.04 6.60 6.20 6.35 6.35 6.40 0.00 #4
2 Elena SOKOLOVA RUS 97.68 48.96 48.72 6.35 5.85 6.20 6.00 6.05 0.00 #1
3 Idora HEGEL CRO 93.04 51.52 41.52 5.35 5.00 5.20 5.25 5.15 0.00 #3
4 Yan LIU CHN 84.64 42.00 42.64 5.70 5.25 5.35 5.10 5.25 0.00 #2
5 Elene GEDEVANISHVILI GEO 82.86 38.90 44.96 5.90 5.40 5.60 5.60 5.60 1.00 #13
6 Anastasia GIMAZETDINOVA UZB 76.00 41.44 34.56 4.75 4.20 4.35 4.20 4.10 0.00 #10
7 Teodora POSTIC SLO 75.84 42.64 33.20 4.45 4.10 4.10 4.10 4.00 0.00 #11
8 Galina EFREMENKO UKR 64.86 26.94 39.92 5.25 5.10 4.80 4.90 4.90 2.00 #7
9 Andrea KREUZER AUT 63.56 33.40 32.16 4.35 3.95 4.05 3.95 3.80 2.00 #5
10 Diane CHEN TPE 54.64 28.08 26.56 3.50 3.05 3.35 3.50 3.20 0.00 #8
11 Ksenia JASTSENJSKI SCG 53.80 26.20 27.60 3.75 3.35 3.35 3.50 3.30 0.00 #12
12 Olga ZADVORNOVA LAT 50.88 25.08 26.80 3.60 3.20 3.35 3.30 3.30 1.00 #6
13 Laura FERNANDEZ ESP 47.06 20.34 30.72 4.10 3.65 3.80 3.90 3.75 4.00 #9

Yay for Yan Liu--her program is so classically beautiful and she's got pretty jumps. I'd like to see her make Top 10.

[TwinnerA]

I see that Laura Fernandez had 4.0 in deductions. Wow! I don't know that I have ever heard of a skater falling 4 times in one program.

[lavender]

I see that Laura Fernandez had 4.0 in deductions. Wow! I don't know that I have ever heard of a skater falling 4 times in one program.

Wow...4 times.

[suzibear]

1 Yukari NAKANO JPN 111.14 60.10 51.04 6.60 6.20 6.35 6.35 6.40 0.00 #4
2 Carolina KOSTNER ITA 102.56 49.60 52.96 7.00 6.35 6.50 6.65 6.60 0.00 #14
3 Elena SOKOLOVA RUS 97.68 48.96 48.72 6.35 5.85 6.20 6.00 6.05 0.00 #1
4 Idora HEGEL CRO 93.04 51.52 41.52 5.35 5.00 5.20 5.25 5.15 0.00 #3
5 Yan LIU CHN 84.64 42.00 42.64 5.70 5.25 5.35 5.10 5.25 0.00 #2
6 Elene GEDEVANISHVILI GEO 82.86 38.90 44.96 5.90 5.40 5.60 5.60 5.60 1.00 #13
7 Anastasia GIMAZETDINOVA UZB 76.00 41.44 34.56 4.75 4.20 4.35 4.20 4.10 0.00 #10
8 Teodora POSTIC SLO 75.84 42.64 33.20 4.45 4.10 4.10 4.10 4.00 0.00 #11
9 Galina EFREMENKO UKR 64.86 26.94 39.92 5.25 5.10 4.80 4.90 4.90 2.00 #7
10 Andrea KREUZER AUT 63.56 33.40 32.16 4.35 3.95 4.05 3.95 3.80 2.00 #5
11 Diane CHEN TPE 54.64 28.08 26.56 3.50 3.05 3.35 3.50 3.20 0.00 #8
12 Ksenia JASTSENJSKI SCG 53.80 26.20 27.60 3.75 3.35 3.35 3.50 3.30 0.00 #12
13 Olga ZADVORNOVA LAT 50.88 25.08 26.80 3.60 3.20 3.35 3.30 3.30 1.00 #6
14 Laura FERNANDEZ ESP 47.06 20.34 30.72 4.10 3.65 3.80 3.90 3.75 4.00 #9

Caro into 2nd place, good for her, Emily up next.

[lavender]

Emily into 2nd now.

[suzibear]

1 Yukari NAKANO JPN 111.14 60.10 51.04 6.60 6.20 6.35 6.35 6.40 0.00 #4
2 Emily HUGHES USA 102.72 53.16 50.56 6.40 6.10 6.45 6.35 6.30 1.00 #15
3 Carolina KOSTNER ITA 102.56 49.60 52.96 7.00 6.35 6.50 6.65 6.60 0.00 #14
4 Elena SOKOLOVA RUS 97.68 48.96 48.72 6.35 5.85 6.20 6.00 6.05 0.00 #1
5 Idora HEGEL CRO 93.04 51.52 41.52 5.35 5.00 5.20 5.25 5.15 0.00 #3
6 Yan LIU CHN 84.64 42.00 42.64 5.70 5.25 5.35 5.10 5.25 0.00 #2
7 Elene GEDEVANISHVILI GEO 82.86 38.90 44.96 5.90 5.40 5.60 5.60 5.60 1.00 #


Emily beat out Caro by less than .2 points!

[suzibear]

Looks like Emily fell too! She has a 1 point deduction.

[lavender]

Did Carolina pop or double some jumps?

[suzibear]

With one more group left, Joannie Roch skating in the last group. I hope she takes over Nakano!

1 Yukari NAKANO JPN 111.14 60.10 51.04 6.60 6.20 6.35 6.35 6.40 0.00 #4
2 Emily HUGHES USA 102.72 53.16 50.56 6.40 6.10 6.45 6.35 6.30 1.00 #15
3 Carolina KOSTNER ITA 102.56 49.60 52.96 7.00 6.35 6.50 6.65 6.60 0.00 #14
4 Elena SOKOLOVA RUS 97.68 48.96 48.72 6.35 5.85 6.20 6.00 6.05 0.00 #1
5 Idora HEGEL CRO 93.04 51.52 41.52 5.35 5.00 5.20 5.25 5.15 0.00 #3
6 Yan LIU CHN 84.64 42.00 42.64 5.70 5.25 5.35 5.10 5.25 0.00 #2
7 Elene GEDEVANISHVILI GEO 82.86 38.90 44.96 5.90 5.40 5.60 5.60 5.60 1.00 #13
8 Anastasia GIMAZETDINOVA UZB 76.00 41.44 34.56 4.75 4.20 4.35 4.20 4.10 0.00 #10
9 Teodora POSTIC SLO 75.84 42.64 33.20 4.45 4.10 4.10 4.10 4.00 0.00 #11
10 Katarina GERBOLDT RUS 70.32 37.28 35.04 4.60 4.10 4.40 4.40 4.40 2.00 #16
11 Galina EFREMENKO UKR 64.86 26.94 39.92 5.25 5.10 4.80 4.90 4.90 2.00 #7
12 Andrea KREUZER AUT 63.56 33.40 32.16 4.35 3.95 4.05 3.95 3.80 2.00 #5
13 Diane CHEN TPE 54.64 28.08 26.56 3.50 3.05 3.35 3.50 3.20 0.00 #8
14 Ksenia JASTSENJSKI SCG 53.80 26.20 27.60 3.75 3.35 3.35 3.50 3.30 0.00 #12
15 Olga ZADVORNOVA LAT 50.88 25.08 26.80 3.60 3.20 3.35 3.30 3.30 1.00 #6
16 Laura FERNANDEZ ESP 47.06 20.34 30.72 4.10 3.65 3.80 3.90 3.75 4.00 #9

[vive_la_reine]

Looks like Emily fell too! She has a 1 point deduction.So can somebody who is watching this explain to me how Emily with 1 fall, is ahead of Carolina, who had no falls and no deductions?

Emily is ahead on the TES? Carolina was ahead on the PCS?

Emily-TES: 53.15 (1 fall)
CK- TES: 49.6 (no falls)

Emily PCS: 50.56
CK PCS: 52.96

Did Emily complete a 3/3 and Carolina not?

[lavender]

Yeah I wonder if Carolina popped or doubled some jumps. She tends to do that.

[ScrappyTheOwl]

Looks like Emily fell too! She has a 1 point deduction.

I'd seriously bet money on the Triple Loop, if she didn't pop or double it and fall on something else.


It's possible Fernandez's 4.00 deduction wasn't all falls. She could have incurred a time deduction, illegal element deduction, or something else.

[vive_la_reine]

Yeah I wonder if Carolina popped or doubled some jumps. She tends to do that.Good point.

[ScrappyTheOwl]

Hughes got a Tech. score less than a point off what she got at the Olympics--meaning she probably did 4 triples, doubled a triple, and fell on a triple, same as she did there.

Kostner got a Tech. score about 6 points higher than at the Olympics--where she only did 2 triples and doubled or popped everything else. So she probably did an extra triple or two, and maybe another with a fall or something.

An interesting note: Hughes PCS score was about the same (0.41 difference), while Kostner's PCS was about 3 points off her Torino score.

[vive_la_reine]

Hughes got a Tech. score less than a point off what she got at the Olympics--meaning she probably did 4 triples, doubled a triple, and fell on a triple, same as she did there.

Kostner got a Tech. score about 6 points higher than at the Olympics--where she only did 2 triples and doubled or popped everything else. So she probably did an extra triple or two, and maybe another with a fall or something.ScrappyTheOwl-CoP question: Carolina had 0 deductions. If she fell, would there be a deduction? Thanks.

[ScrappyTheOwl]

ScrappyTheOwl-CoP question: Carolina had 0 deductions. If she fell, would there be a deduction? Thanks.

Yes, you'd see a deduction if she fell.

That's about all you call tell from the preliminary scores: No deductions = No falls. But no falls does not necessarily mean no deductions, since you can get deductions for other things.

[vive_la_reine]

Yes, you'd see a deduction if she fell. No deductions = no falls.Thank you!

[TwinnerA]

I can see how a person could get behind the music in their program if they had a couple of falls and then end up finishing after the music, thereby getting another deduction.

[ScrappyTheOwl]

Yeah, you get a 1.00 deduction for every 5 seconds over the time limit.

You technically have 4 minutes, plus or minus 10 seconds (meaning your routine can be between 3:50 and 4:10) ... a lot of girls are planning 4:10 programs so if you're off the end even a second you get a deduction. I haven't seen many time deductions this year, though.

[ScrappyTheOwl]

Kiira Korpi moves into 4th with 101.74.

Rochette's up next.

[suzibear]

1 Yukari NAKANO JPN 111.14 60.10 51.04 6.60 6.20 6.35 6.35 6.40 0.00 #4
2 Emily HUGHES USA 102.72 53.16 50.56 6.40 6.10 6.45 6.35 6.30 1.00 #15
3 Carolina KOSTNER ITA 102.56 49.60 52.96 7.00 6.35 6.50 6.65 6.60 0.00 #14
4 Kiira KORPI FIN 101.74 53.34 48.40 6.30 5.80 6.10 6.00 6.05 0.00 #19
5 Elena SOKOLOVA RUS 97.68 48.96 48.72 6.35 5.85 6.20 6.00 6.05 0.00 #1
6 Idora HEGEL CRO 93.04 51.52 41.52 5.35 5.00 5.20 5.25 5.15 0.00 #3
7 Yan LIU CHN 84.64 42.00 42.64 5.70 5.25 5.35 5.10 5.25 0.00 #2
8 Elene GEDEVANISHVILI GEO 82.86 38.90 44.96 5.90 5.40 5.60 5.60 5.60 1.00 #13

Roch up next!

[suzibear]

1 Joannie ROCHETTE CAN 117.12 62.00 55.12 6.95 6.80 6.85 6.90 6.95 0.00 #20
2 Yukari NAKANO JPN 111.14 60.10 51.04 6.60 6.20 6.35 6.35 6.40 0.00 #4
3 Emily HUGHES USA 102.72 53.16 50.56 6.40 6.10 6.45 6.35 6.30 1.00 #15
4 Carolina KOSTNER ITA 102.56 49.60 52.96 7.00 6.35 6.50 6.65 6.60 0.00 #14
5 Kiira KORPI FIN 101.74 53.34 48.40 6.30 5.80 6.10 6.00 6.05 0.00 #19
6 Elena SOKOLOVA RUS 97.68 48.96 48.72 6.35 5.85 6.20 6.00 6.05 0.00 #1
7 Idora HEGEL CRO 93.04 51.52 41.52 5.35 5.00 5.20 5.25 5.15

Roch into 1st!!!

[Cole50]

Yeah, Joannie just jumped into the lead! You go girl!!!

[suzibear]

Fantastic for the Home town Girl!!! She's ahead by 6 points nearly!!!

[ScrappyTheOwl]

Wow, that Tech. Score is like 7 points higher than what Joannie got at the Olympics ... must have been a clean program, or at least with all her triples!

[Dream Again]

WOOHOOOOOOO, Joannie will most likely win her qualifying group! I hope this momentum keeps up for her and that she makes her critics eat their words!! I'm SO HAPPY for her. :bow :clap

[kittyjake5]

Good for Joannie.

[lavender]

I saw Joannie's name at the top...yes.. I was hoping she would overtake Nakano. Nakano is good but I just can't get over that leg wrap.

[suzibear]

This is the final standing for Qual B

1 Joannie ROCHETTE CAN 117.12 62.00 55.12 6.95 6.80 6.85 6.90 6.95 0.00 #20
2 Yukari NAKANO JPN 111.14 60.10 51.04 6.60 6.20 6.35 6.35 6.40 0.00 #4
3 Emily HUGHES USA 102.72 53.16 50.56 6.40 6.10 6.45 6.35 6.30 1.00 #15
4 Carolina KOSTNER ITA 102.56 49.60 52.96 7.00 6.35 6.50 6.65 6.60 0.00 #14
5 Kiira KORPI FIN 101.74 53.34 48.40 6.30 5.80 6.10 6.00 6.05 0.00 #19
6 Elena SOKOLOVA RUS 97.68 48.96 48.72 6.35 5.85 6.20 6.00 6.05 0.00 #1
7 Idora HEGEL CRO 93.04 51.52 41.52 5.35 5.00 5.20 5.25 5.15 0.00 #3
8 Yan LIU CHN 84.64 42.00 42.64 5.70 5.25 5.35 5.10 5.25 0.00 #2
9 Elene GEDEVANISHVILI GEO 82.86 38.90 44.96 5.90 5.40 5.60 5.60 5.60 1.00 #13
10 Annette DYTRT GER 77.88 36.84 43.04 5.45 5.25 5.50 5.45 5.25 2.00 #22
11 Anastasia GIMAZETDINOVA UZB 76.00 41.44 34.56 4.75 4.20 4.35 4.20 4.10 0.00 #10
12 Teodora POSTIC SLO 75.84 42.64 33.20 4.45 4.10 4.10 4.10 4.00 0.00 #11
13 Katarina GERBOLDT RUS 70.32 37.28 35.04 4.60 4.10 4.40 4.40 4.40 2.00 #16
14 Galina EFREMENKO UKR 64.86 26.94 39.92 5.25 5.10 4.80 4.90 4.90 2.00 #7
15 Andrea KREUZER AUT 63.56 33.40 32.16 4.35 3.95 4.05 3.95 3.80 2.00 #5
16 Tammy SUTAN THA 59.32 29.64 31.68 4.15 3.85 4.00 3.95 3.85 2.00 #21
17 Sonia RADEVA BUL 58.24 28.32 31.92 4.25 3.80 4.00 3.95 3.95 2.00 #18
18 Diane CHEN TPE 54.64 28.08 26.56 3.50 3.05 3.35 3.50 3.20 0.00 #8
19 Ksenia JASTSENJSKI SCG 53.80 26.20 27.60 3.75 3.35 3.35 3.50 3.30 0.00 #12
20 Ji Eun CHOI KOR 52.90 24.22 29.68 3.90 3.30 3.85 3.75 3.75 1.00 #17
21 Olga ZADVORNOVA LAT 50.88 25.08 26.80 3.60 3.20 3.35 3.30 3.30 1.00 #6
22 Laura FERNANDEZ ESP 47.06 20.34 30.72 4.10 3.65 3.80 3.90 3.75 4.00 #9

[ScrappyTheOwl]

Here's the factored (0.25, or 25% of the score) Qualifying Scores the Top 15 in QR-B will carry with them into the Short Program:

1. Joannie Rochette, CAN = 29.28
2. Yukari Nakano, JPN = 27.79
3. Emily Hughes, USA = 25.68
4. Carolina Kostner, ITA = 25.64
5. Kiira Korpi, FIN = 25.44
6. Elena Sokolova, RUS = 24.42
7. Idora Hegel, CRO = 23.26
8. Yan Liu, CHN = 21.16
9. Elene Gedevanishvili, GEO = 20.72
10. Annette Dytrt, GER = 19.47
11. Anastasia Gimazetdinova, UZB = 19.00
12. Teodora Postic, SLO = 18.96
13. Katarina Gerboldt, RUS = 17.58
14. Galina Efremenko, UKR = 16.22
15. Andrea Kreuzer, AUT = 15.89

Last Group will include:
Rochette, Nakano, and Hughes

Penultimate Group will include:
Kostner, Korpi, and Sokolova

[sric]

When will group A skate?

[Cole50]

Just 1.2 points seperates Emily from Elena Sokolova. Interesting stuff.

[lavender]

Last Group will include:
Rochette, Nakano, and Hughes


...Unless someone gets a higher score in the other group. Klimklin knocked Johnny out of the top 6 because his score was higher in his qual round although he didn't fare as well in his own group.

[suzibear]

Wow I didn't realize Qual is 25% of final score.... I don't know why I thought it was 10%

Thanks for breaking down their carry over score.

[ScrappyTheOwl]

...Unless someone gets a higher score in the other group. Klimklin knocked Johnny out of the top 6 because his score was higher in his qual round although he didn't fare as well in his own group.

No. Top 3 from each group go into the last group for the short. Ranking/placement determines your placement in the start order, not the actual scores.

Johnny actually outscored Klimkin in the qualifying, but Johnny was 4th in his group and Klimkin was 3rd in his group. So Klimkin got to go in the last group.

Edited because I can't spell anything today :P

[lavender]

No. Top 3 from each group go into the last group for the short. Ranking/placement determines your placement in the start order, not the actual scores.

Johnny actually outscored Klimkin in the qualifying, but Johnny was 4th in his group and Klimkin was 3rd in his group. So Klimkin got to go in the last group.

Edited because I can't spell anything today :P

You're right. I'm backwards today.

[missmarysgarden]

Just 1.2 points seperates Emily from Elena Sokolova. Interesting stuff.

Yeah, but what's even more interesting is that just .24 points separate Emily Hughes from the Finnish Flash, Kiira Korpi!!! (who is a much better skater than Emily, IMO; certainly more pleasant to watch). It's tight at the top.

[gatzbee]

wuts the point of having a point value for ur score if they're using the old 6.0 rankings? they should base the final flight of 6 on the highest 6 scores.. sigh... man i wish i could actually watch the skating. no cable for me :(. emily seems to be doing fairly well on the senior circuit so far.

[rubyred]

Yay for Joannie and Yukari :clap :clap

This is definitely the Olympics for Yukari. (Did Joannie go to Torino?)

[cestlavie000000]

Well congrats to Joannie...I hope she hits her SP and LP to their fullest potential feeling gratified in what she has done. Her 3 loop in the Olys was just great.

Go Fumie and Kimmie may both of you have the competition of your young lives!

[ScrappyTheOwl]

wuts the point of having a point value for ur score if they're using the old 6.0 rankings? they should base the final flight of 6 on the highest 6 scores.. sigh... man i wish i could actually watch the skating. no cable for me :(. emily seems to be doing fairly well on the senior circuit so far.

Rankings/placements only determine the warm-up groups, and who qualifies from the qualifiying round (qualifiying groups are not random--they select skaters for each group based on past performance then use the Top 15 from each group to diversify the field a bit).

It's the points that will matter in the end, though. You could theoretically be 7th in all phases of the competition and still win if your total was the highest.

[sKATEr4life]

Yay for Joannie and Yukari :clap :clap

This is definitely the Olympics for Yukari. (Did Joannie go to Torino?)

Yes - she placed 5th

[SusanaDalia]

Go Joannie, Go Joannie, Go Joannie, GO!!

[missmarysgarden]

When does the A Group skate? In North American time - what is Calgary? Mountain time?

[neneth]

When does the A Group skate? In North American time - what is Calgary? Mountain time?

If you live in California ,Calgary is 2 hour ahead of California.

[ScrappyTheOwl]

Calgary is Mountain Standard Time (MST).

7pm MST is 9pm EST -- that's when Ladies Qualifiying Group A will start.

[lightsout]

How much does the qualifying round score count for?

[missmarysgarden]

So Calgary is the same as CDST in the US....can someone tell me where I can find the schedule - oh, the ISU site probably....

[ElkGroveGroovin]

Calgary is on MOUNTAIN STANDARD time as of now, (I checked worldtimeserver.com hope that clears it up!), 1 hour ahead of California/PST. Here's the time schedule for Worlds (SIMPLIFIED)

Time Schedule
MST (Local Time)
http://www.isufs.org/results/wc2006/index.htm


20.03.2006 MON
9:15 AM Men Qualifying Group A
2:35 PM Pairs Short Program
6:54 PM Men Qualifying Group B

21.03.2006 TUES
11:00AM Ice Dancing Compulsory Dance
3:24 PM Men Short Program

22.03.2006 WED
9:15 AM Ladies Qualifying Group B
1:54 PM Pairs Free Skating
6:54 PM Ladies Qualifying Group A

23.03.2006 THURS
10:30 AM Ice Dancing Original Dance
3:45 PM Men Free Skating

24.03.2006 FRI
10:30 AM Ladies Short Program
3:40 PM Ice Dancing Free Dance

25.03.2006 SAT
11:54 AM Ladies Free Skating

ALL TIMES ARE ON MST (MOUNTAIN)

[vive_la_reine]

WOW! Way to go, Joannie! :clap

[neneth]

I live in Ontario and calgary is one hour behind us.It 2:55 now there pm afternoon. And it now 3:55 pmhere in Ontario.

[ScrappyTheOwl]

Calgary is on MOUNTAIN Standard time, 1 hour ahead of California/PST. Here's the time schedule for Worlds

From the last Sunday in October through the first Sunday in April, Calgary uses Mountain Standard Time.

They use Mountain Time for the rest of the year.

ETA: Oops! I could have sworn your post said Mountain Time a minute ago ... and it was shorter ... oh well, guess you corrected it or I'm seeing things.

[lightsout]

I never really paid attention to Worlds...so i have a question. Other than obviously to qualify, how important are qualifying scores? What percent of the total?

[ScrappyTheOwl]

How much does the qualifying round score count for?

The qualifiying score is multiplied by 0.25. For example, a skater who scores 100.00 in the Qualifiying Round only gets to apply 25%, which is 25.00, of it towards her total score.

Short program and long program scores count in full.

[ScrappyTheOwl]

So could you theoretically have a really crappy qualifying score (but still qualify) and still win?

Yup.

Scores get closer when you factor them.

Skater A: 150.00 x 0.25 = 37.50
Skater B: 110.00 x 0.25 = 27.50

That brings the gigantic 40-point difference down to 10.

Let's Skater B makes a comeback at this point, where Skater A does a good short and a similar long to the qualifying, and is out-skated in both the short and long by Skater B.

SP:
Skater A: 62.00
Skater B: 67.00
LP:
Skater A: 150.00
Skater B: 156.00

TOTALS:
Skater A: 249.50
Skater B: 250.50

[skatingfan22]

is the ladies long program going to be broadcasted live on espn?

[ScrappyTheOwl]

is the ladies long program going to be broadcasted live on espn?
Not quite sure--the ladies free skate is at noon in Calgary on Saturday, which is 2:00 pm EST.

ESPN will broadcast the ladies free skate (combined with the Pairs Free Skate) from 5:30pm-9:00pm EST.

So I think *some* of it will be Live. Guess we'll find out :P

[Disciple of KWAN]

when are the short programs airing on tv?

oh wow, emily fell on the triple loop again?

i cant remember the last time a skater fell on the same jump in 3 major events...

edit...


"I'm not a fool,” said Rochette, who finished fifth in Italy. “I know that five minus two equals three. I know it's possible, but I'm not focusing on that at all.”

LOLOLOL, she is my new #2 skater!!!

[ScrappyTheOwl]

when are the short programs airing on tv?

3-23 -- Thursday
7:30pm-11pm: Mens Short & Long Programs, Pairs Short, and Original Dance
11pm-12am: Ladies Qualifiying Round (I think)

3-24 -- Friday
7:30pm-11pm: Ladies Short Program, Free Dance
11pm-12am -- Ladies Short Program Repeat, Pairs Short Program

3-25 -- Saturday
5:30pm-9pm: Pairs and Ladies Free Skates

3-26 -- Sunday
5:30pm-7:30pm: Exhibition

There's more Re-Broadcasts and stuff ... you can view the TV Schedule here:
http://www.usfigureskating.org/Event_TV_Schedule.asp



oh wow, emily fell on the triple loop again?

i cant remember the last time a skater fell on the same jump in 3 major events...

I've never actually seen her land it--it's not a good jump for her. Torino was the first time in the last two years she's gotten credit for even rotating it enough, I think.

ETA: She landed it at Cup of Russia this season.

[michelle2006]

what happend? Where are Kimmie, Sasha, and Fumie?

[RedLadyBug]

They are in the other qualifying group, they are yet to skate

[Disciple of KWAN]

i saw on the usfsa that the pairs event is tonight?

is there a thread and i just missed it? lol

[lemonade16]

Pairs already started. LP scores can be found here:

http://www.isufs.org/results/wc2006/SEG010.HTM

[Disciple of KWAN]

thank you lemonade...but no thread here on MKF?

[lemonade16]

thank you lemonade...but no thread here on MKF?

I haven't seen one. I guess you could start one if you wanted? Of course I am pulling for the U.S. Pairs (Inoue and Baldwin and Hinzmann and Parchem). Wouldn't it be wonderful to be able to send three pairs teams to Worlds next year?

[Disciple of KWAN]

it would be great!

oh, and im too lazy right now to start a new thread, lol...

[calculusfan]

I guess the 2nd group will be up in a little while. Have there been any practice reports?

[KwansPrayerWarrior]

oh wow, emily fell on the triple loop again?

Maybe she should do like Michelle and just scratch it from her line-up since she cant seem to grasp it. It would only work in her favor


Originally quoted by DiscipleOfKwan
oh, and im too lazy right now to start a new thread, lol...

I think one thread is sweet for both qualifying groups :)

GO TUGGY!!!!!!! :D

[iloveskating]

From the last Sunday in October through the first Sunday in April, Calgary uses Mountain Standard Time.

They use Mountain Time for the rest of the year.What are you trying to say? They're on Mountain time except when they're on mountain time?
Here's a link to the world clock.
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/
Specifically for Calgary:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=55

[Katty52]

What are you trying to say? They're on Mountain time except when they're on mountain time?
Here's a link to the world clock.
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/
Specifically for Calgary:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=55


:lol :lol :lol :lol

I needed a good laugh

[michelle2006]

Maybe she should do like Michelle and just scratch it from her line-up since she cant seem to grasp it. It would only work in her favor

Michelle has one of the most consistent, and pretty 3 loops. BUT-it hurts her hip, and I dont want her risking anything.

[ScrappyTheOwl]

What are you trying to say? They're on Mountain time except when they're on mountain time?
Here's a link to the world clock.
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/
Specifically for Calgary:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=55

Ever heard of Daylight Saving Time? Whenever you move your clocks forward/backward, you're observing Daylight Saving Time.

When a city/county/whatever does this, they switch time zones.

Calgary observes daylight saving time from the first Sunday through the last Sunday in October -- when they do this, they're in the Mountain Time Zone.

The rest of the year, they are in the Mountain Standard Time Zone.

[pianohabebi]

Michelle has one of the most consistent, and pretty 3 loops. BUT-it hurts her hip, and I dont want her risking anything.

Wasn't there some problem with her technique too? And that was the other part of the reason she pulled it from her programs (though it hurting her is a darn good reason to pull it out). I just remember that being said somewhere on the forum, just trying to remember...

[ScrappyTheOwl]

What are you trying to say? They're on Mountain time except when they're on mountain time?
Here's a link to the world clock.
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/
Specifically for Calgary:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=55

Ever heard of Daylight Saving Time? Whenever you move your clocks forward/backward, you're observing Daylight Saving Time.

When a city/county/whatever does this, they switch time zones.

Calgary observes daylight savings time from the first Sunday through the last Sunday in October -- when they do this, they're in the Mountain Time Zone.

The rest of the year, they are in the Mountain Standard Time Zone.

[michelle2006]

Wasn't there some problem with her technique too? And that was the other part of the reason she pulled it from her programs (though it hurting her is a darn good reason to pull it out). I just remember that being said somewhere on the forum, just trying to remember...

Yeah I think someone said it was underotated. She still landed it more often than ppl with "good technique", so the heck with it. Michelle's 3 loop is purdy enough for me.:D

[KwansPrayerWarrior]

Michelle has one of the most consistent, and pretty 3 loops. BUT-it hurts her hip, and I dont want her risking anything.

I guess I just remember her falling on it in both her SP & LP Nationals 2000. But I think I DO remember her landing a clean one during 2003 Worlds LP. I always make a point to watch her 3L in ANY old videotape I have; just so I can see how recently she's landed it.

:grump *Is Still Miffed About Olys* :grump

[TMC8802]

i *THINK* that MK's technique was just different from other skaters as a result of being coached by frank. the technique he teaches, if i remember correctly, is like wrapping a flag pole, where one arm is to stay straight and the other should wrap into it...lots of people hate that technique

it's possible she developed some technique problems with it later on, but i think the main reason it got pulled was because it can hurt her hips

in response to an above post***i think the last time she landed the 3l was 2004 worlds LP...and maybe in the cheese fest soon after...but she landed it at natls and worlds that year

and she fell on the 3t not the 3l in the sp...she did take a hard fall on the 3l in the long though...one of her most painful looking falls ever actually

[epoibim]

Yes it was beauteous in 03! It was her opening jump in Tosca '04, as well...landed without a problem that season.

I MISS MICHELLE!!!!!!!!

[ScrappyTheOwl]

Michelle last landed a Triple Loop at the 2004 Marshalls World Challenge, after landing two (one in each program) at Worlds.

You guys ever checked out this page?
http://www.heatherw.com/mk/jumps.htm

[MarkyBoy36]

excuse me expressing my opinion...i guess mine wasn't welcomed, like everyone elses' was...

[KwansPrayerWarrior]

You guys ever checked out this page?
http://www.heatherw.com/mk/jumps.htm

Nah, I'm too lazy. I'd rather let you do it. :D Besides, you're the 4.0 student of The Figure Skating College Statistician :lol


6:54 PM Ladies Qualifying Group A

It's 8:38pm Eastern Time. What time on the Eastern Time Zone are they supposed to start? I don't have all day you know :D . I got ants in my pants waiting :lol

[pianohabebi]

Nah, I'm too lazy. I'd rather let you do it. :D Besides, you're the 4.0 student of The Figure Skating College Statistician :lol

That's a great title for Scrappy!! Oh btw ScrappyO, I love your name. Makes me smile for some reason. :)

[ScrappyTheOwl]

LOL ... numbers, statistics, and the like are my thing. I'm a very technical person ... explains why I'm a Computer Science major who was formerly a Mathematics major who was formerly an Accounting major.

thanks pianohabebi ... and I like The Figure Skating College Statistician too, I have to admit it suits me :P

[pianohabebi]

LOL ... numbers, statistics, and the like are my thing. I'm a very technical person ... explains why I'm a Computer Science major who was formerly a Mathematics major who was formerly an Accounting major.

LOL. That explains everything! I know a lot of Comp Sci guys; that's not a bad thing btw. *feels like the light has gone on*

[ScrappyTheOwl]

Would it surprise you to hear I'm a girl?

[pianohabebi]

Would it surprise you to hear I'm a girl?

Totally! Lol! Sorry about that. Like I said, all the Comp Sci people I know are guys. LOL Awww just made a fool out of myself. My bad! Will you forgive me?

[ScrappyTheOwl]

LOL, it's fine. Most people take one look at me and wonder why the heck I'm a CS major ... CS does seem to be primarily a "man's field."

[pianohabebi]

LOL, it's fine. Most people take one look at me and wonder why the heck I'm a CS major ... CS does seem to be primarily a "man's field."

I could see that. But, hey more power to ya!! :clap

[epoibim]

Hey, this is more exciting than Worlds, so far!:)

[iloveskating]

Ever heard of Daylight Saving Time? Whenever you move your clocks forward/backward, you're observing Daylight Saving Time. YES I've heard of DST. Why do you need to be so sarcastic. People were debating whether Calgary was Central time vs Mountain time and the poster did not say Mountain Daylight Time, just Mountain TIme. "Mountain Time" could be MST or MDT. If you refer to a specific time zone, it is STANDARD time by default, unless DAYLIGHT is specified, at least that's how we refer to time here. That's why the message was confusing. OK????

[KwansPrayerWarrior]

Most people take one look at me and wonder why the heck I'm a CS major ... CS does seem to be primarily a "man's field."

Do you look like a supermodel or? :bow And you have to know how to beat the men at their own game. You could overhear them spouting off facts-and-figures about numbers and statistics and it will totally make them pee theirself when you "out" them over their fabrications :D

[michelle2006]

Totally! Lol! Sorry about that. Like I said, all the Comp Sci people I know are guys. LOL Awww just made a fool out of myself. My bad! Will you forgive me?

But-scoience is my best subject, and I'll probably major in technology.

[ScrappyTheOwl]

QR-A starts shortly ... fingers crossed for Cohen, Meissner, Meier, Suguri, Onda, and Poykio from me (don't really no who anyone else is :P). I hope everyone does well.

[iloveskating]

excuse me expressing my opinion...i guess mine wasn't welcomed, like everyone elses' was...Apparently only one person's opinions are ok here today. :crazy

[michelle2006]

QR-A starts shortly ... fingers crossed for Cohen, Meissner, Meier, Suguri, Onda, and Poykio from me (don't really no who anyone else is). I hope everyone does well.

:bow :bow FUMIE, FUMIE, FUMIE!:clap :clap

[KwansPrayerWarrior]

fingers crossed for Cohen, Meissner, Meier, Suguri, Onda, and Poykio from me (don't really no who anyone else is :P). I hope everyone does well.

:D TUGGY FOR CHAMPION! :bow

[michelle2006]

I hope Tugba Karadamir finishes in the top 15. I hope she gets to skate in the LP as well.

[ScrappyTheOwl]

Do you look like a supermodel or? :bow And you have to know how to beat the men at their own game. You could overhear them spouting off facts-and-figures about numbers and statistics and it will totally make them pee theirself when you "out" them over their fabrications :D

LOL--I didn't mean to imply I looked like a supermodel. There's just kind of a stigma against female CS majors who don't wear glasses, walk hunched over (supposedly this implies they spend too much time on the computer) and have a pile of books in their arms that go over their head. That's not me.


YES I've heard of DST. Why do you need to be so sarcastic. People were debating whether Calgary was Central time vs Mountain time and the poster did not say Mountain Daylight Time, just Mountain TIme. "Mountain Time" could be MST or MDT. If you refer to a specific time zone, it is STANDARD time by default, unless DAYLIGHT is specified, at least that's how we refer to time here. That's why the message was confusing. OK????

Actually, I posted the original and I thought I bolded both to show there was a difference ... I didn't mean to be overly sacracastic. I thought maybe you didn't know what Daylight savings was.

It actually is okay to drop the Daylight ... whenever you don't see Standard or Daylight in the time zone (like just Eastern Time, Pacific Time, or Mountain Time), it's implied that it's Daylight Saving Time.

Another example:
Eastern Standard Time versus Eastern Time -- Eastern Time is actually Eastern Daylight Time.

[Dream Again]

:bow :clap FUMIE4GOLD and JOANNIE4SILVER! :bow :clap *hopes & prays*

[pianohabebi]

But-scoience is my best subject, and I'll probably major in technology.

Hey, that's cool. Like I said, most Comp Sci majors are guys. But, there are a lot of girls who are in the engineering depts here; I know several girls who are chemical engineering majors. I totally admire people going for technology majors!! I could not do it, everytime I walk into Kep Hall here(where all the math, science, etc classes are)I don't feel like I belong LOL!

Sorry, I'm totally off topic... Go Fumie et al! Hopefully, Tuggy will make the cut!

[iloveskating]

Is the QR on Eurosport. I don't see a link for it.

[jesskate]

GOOOO Fumie!!! She's totally due for this. Especially after what happened at the Olympics. I hope she brings it!

[michelle2006]

I love Rach piano concerto no.2. Its overused, but I am in love with it. Her ftwk section, the music makes me melt. I LURVVE IT!

I play it everyday. Go Fumie.

[brett's girl]

how many skaters are in group A? how long do you think it will last?

[lillyfly]

Is the QR on Eurosport. I don't see a link for it.

Here is the link but it doesn't look like they are doing live text for the Ladies Q. :grump

http://www.eurosport.com/figureskating/world-championships/2006/live_mtc138021.shtml

[ScrappyTheOwl]

Is the QR on Eurosport. I don't see a link for it.

No, Eurosports not doing anything for the Qualifiying Rounds. They did notes for a couple of the guys QRs, but barely anything.


brett's girl, start order (and live results) can be found here:
http://www.isufs.org/results/wc2006/SEG005.HTM

There are 22 skaters ... it'll probably take 3, maybe 4 hours.

[iloveskating]

thanks lilyfly. too bad there is no live reporting

[ElkGroveGroovin]

Heres the results so far..
1 Viktoria PAVUK HUN 85.24 47.48 37.76 4.95 4.55 4.65 4.70 4.75 0.00 #3
2 Amanda NYLANDER SWE 79.16 45.00 34.16 4.45 4.10 4.20 4.35 4.25 0.00 #1
3 Michelle CANTU MEX 63.92 32.60 32.32 4.05 3.90 4.00 4.10 4.15 1.00 #2

[lillyfly]

excuse me expressing my opinion...i guess mine wasn't welcomed, like everyone elses' was...

If you are refereing to the Sasha statement don't worry about it. Maybe use "I" statements, like "I am thankful..." Otherwise it sounds like you are telling others what to think. I hope I got the right post to respond to. :P

Not everyone here likes Sasha. It is afterall the Michelle Kwan forum. I admit I didn't always care for her and at time she still gets on my nerves. But I hope she does well and that goes for all our ladies. But I also have to admit I am rooting for a few other non Americans as well. Without Michelle I sort of have mixed loyalties.:)

[ScrappyTheOwl]

Standings after the first group:
1 Viktoria PAVUK HUN 85.24 47.48 37.76 4.95 4.55 4.65 4.70 4.75 0.00 #3
2 Amanda NYLANDER SWE 79.16 45.00 34.16 4.45 4.10 4.20 4.35 4.25 0.00 #1
3 Michelle CANTU MEX 63.92 32.60 32.32 4.05 3.90 4.00 4.10 4.15 1.00 #2
4 Miriam MANZANO AUS 63.52 32.84 31.68 4.15 3.80 3.90 4.00 3.95 1.00 #4
5 Roxana LUCA ROM 62.10 30.70 32.40 4.20 3.90 4.05 4.05 4.05 1.00 #5

[TMC8802]

oh my...only a 79 for julia sebestyen...a 36 for TES and 43 for PCS...that puts her into third in this qualifying so far....obviously not her best

[michelle2006]

Julia's been having a horrible, nightmare-ish season.

[KwansPrayerWarrior]

I'm just glad that TUGGY is in the last qualifying group and not Sasha :D


Originally quoted by Michelle2006
I hope Tugba Karadamir finishes in the top 15. I hope she gets to skate in the LP as well.

*sigh* You and me both. She finished 13th at Euros this year I think. I would like her to finish in the top 10 of these Worlds, just becuase I want her to improve from her placement at Olys :bow

[michelle2006]

I hope Tugba has teh best program of he rlife-for her parents, and for you.

[ScrappyTheOwl]

LOL KwansPrayerWarrior ... I'm changing my user title to that :P

That's gonna crack me up everytime I see it :D

[pianohabebi]

LOL KwansPrayerWarrior ... I'm changing my user title to that :P

That's gonna crack me up everytime I see it :D

Yay! :clap Love it!!

[DramaQueen]

Fumie into the lead:)

[ScrappyTheOwl]

103.88 for Suguri.

[KwansPrayerWarrior]

LOL KwansPrayerWarrior ... I'm changing my user title to that :P

That's gonna crack me up everytime I see it :D

**Doez Elvis** Thank ya, thank ya very much :D

FUMIE INTO FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And at least 28 points higher than Victoria Pavuk :bow .......Does anyone have a list of jumps she completed? Or leveled spins?

[michelle2006]

isnt that low for her?

[pianohabebi]

Actually, Suguri's score is this...

1 Fumie SUGURI JPN 113.88 57.80 56.08 7.25 6.75 7.00 7.00 7.05 0.00

GO FUMIE!!! Woohoo!!!

[iloveskating]

113.88 for fumie

[DramaQueen]

Fumie has a 113.

1 Fumie SUGURI JPN 113.88 57.80 56.08 7.25 6.75 7.00 7.00 7.05

[pianohabebi]

Apparently, according to some knowledgble FSU peeps, this score is slightly better than her Olympic lp score, but, her PCS scores here are lower.

Another person commented that the judges are a bit stingy with the PCS scores tonight. Don't know if that's true...Found it interesting though

[KwansPrayerWarrior]

UGH! I wonder how long Fumie will hold that lead with Sasha and Kimmie Meissner coming up? I want Fumie in the last skating group for LP :(


Originally quoted by Michelle2006
I hope Tugba has teh best program of her life-for her parents, and for you.

Awww, I love you :D .......As long as she is in the last skating group for LP, that would, honestly, be a vast improvement for me, and I can be satisfied with this skating season for the women.....well, minus the Michelle and all. :(


Originally quoted by PianoHabebi
but, her PCS scores here are lower.

UGH! For the love of everything is stinking RIGHT IN THIS WORLD!!!!!!! Why, why, WHY do judges score Fumie low in PCS??????

[ShowMeTheKwan2]

GO KIMMIE! I think she can do really well here.

[ScrappyTheOwl]

Apparently, according to some knowledgble FSU peeps, this score is slightly better than her Olympic lp score, but, her PCS scores here are lower.

Another person commented that the judges are a bit stingy with the PCS scores tonight. Don't know if that's true...Found it interesting though

Yeah, the PCS scores at Worlds have been a lot tighter than at the Olympics.

Fumie's Tech. score here is about 3.5 points higher than at Torino.

[pianohabebi]

1 Fumie SUGURI JPN 113.88 57.80 56.08 7.25 6.75 7.00 7.00 7.05 0.00 #8
2 Sarah MEIER SUI 98.54 49.10 49.44 6.35 6.05 6.20 6.05 6.25 0.00 #9
3 Viktoria PAVUK HUN 85.24 47.48 37.76 4.95 4.55 4.65 4.70 4.75 0.00 #3
4 Amanda NYLANDER SWE 79.16 45.00 34.16 4.45 4.10 4.20 4.35 4.25 0.00 #1
5 Julia SEBESTYEN HUN 79.08 36.04 43.04 5.65 5.10 5.40 5.40 5.35 0.00 #6
6 Michelle CANTU MEX 63.92 32.60 32.32 4.05 3.90 4.00 4.10 4.15 1.00 #2
7 Miriam MANZANO AUS 63.52 32.84 31.68 4.15 3.80 3.90 4.00 3.95 1.00 #4
8 Roxana LUCA ROM 62.10 30.70 32.40 4.20 3.90 4.05 4.05 4.05 1.00 #5
9 Jenna-Anne BUYS RSA 49.38 22.30 30.08 3.85 3.60 3.75 3.85 3.75 3.00 #7

[pianohabebi]

Yeah, the PCS scores at Worlds have been a lot tighter than at the Olympics.

Fumie's Tech. score here is about 3.5 points higher than at Torino.

Do you think that means she did completed 6 triples then? As opposed to the 5 triples two doubles one being an axel..

[ElkGroveGroovin]

Good for Fumie!!!

[michelle2006]

1 Fumie SUGURI JPN 113.88

NOW THAT sounds better. KPW, I love you too...and my darling MK.

[ScrappyTheOwl]

Do you think that means she did completed 6 triples then? As opposed to the 5 triples two doubles one being an axel..

Pretty likely.

[KwansPrayerWarrior]

Do you think that means she did completed 6 triples then? As opposed to the 5 triples two doubles one being an axel..

*sigh* I hope so. I would love for Kimmie, Fumie and Tuggy to ALLLL have improved scores either technically, Program Components or both.

Maybe it's a good thing that Irina didn't compete here. She'd be lucky to make the medal stand. If she was being "tightened" at the Olys without inflated scores, imagine how it would be for her here; and I DID check out the panel of judges for the women in qualifying. It listed their names but not the country they're from.


Originally quoted by Michelle2006
NOW THAT sounds better. KPW, I love you too...and my darling MK.

Oh yeah I forgot "My Angel Michelle" :D

[michelle2006]

Maybe it's a good thing that Irina didn't compete here. She'd be lucky to make the medal stand. If she was being "tightened" at the Olys without inflated scores,

She would get high TES, and I'd imagine ok PCS, and well.....who knows.

[iloveskating]

kimmie into 2nd 113,84 wow

[KwansPrayerWarrior]

She would get high TES, and I'd imagine ok PCS, and well.....who knows.

Wonder how much a "Beilman" would sell for on EBay? :lol

[ScrappyTheOwl]

Meissner into 2nd with 113.84, just .04 off Suguri's score.

When you factorize it to go to the short, here are their scores:
Suguri = 28.47
Meissner = 28.46

Talk about close :P

[iloveskating]

there will be an ice make now, so it will be 15-20 min, after warmup, then Yoshie & Sasha will skate

[pianohabebi]

1 Fumie SUGURI JPN 113.88 57.80 56.08 7.25 6.75 7.00 7.00 7.05 0.00 #8
2 Sarah MEIER SUI 98.54 49.10 49.44 6.35 6.05 6.20 6.05 6.25 0.00 #9
3 Viktoria PAVUK HUN 85.24 47.48 37.76 4.95 4.55 4.65 4.70 4.75 0.00 #3
4 Amanda NYLANDER SWE 79.16 45.00 34.16 4.45 4.10 4.20 4.35 4.25 0.00 #1
5 Julia SEBESTYEN HUN 79.08 36.04 43.04 5.65 5.10 5.40 5.40 5.35 0.00 #6
6 Michelle CANTU MEX 63.92 32.60 32.32 4.05 3.90 4.00 4.10 4.15 1.00 #2
7 Miriam MANZANO AUS 63.52 32.84 31.68 4.15 3.80 3.90 4.00 3.95 1.00 #4
8 Roxana LUCA ROM 62.10 30.70 32.40 4.20 3.90 4.05 4.05 4.05 1.00 #5
9 Jenna-Anne BUYS RSA 49.38 22.30 30.08 3.85 3.60 3.75 3.85 3.75 3.00 #7

New personal best for Kimmie! Good job!

[KwansPrayerWarrior]

kimmie into 2nd 113,84 wow


Originally quoted by ScrappyTheOwl
Meissner into 2nd with 113.84, just .04 off Suguri's score

Geez if this isn't Sasha/Irina re-invented Olys :eek

TES Scores: 57.80 for Fumie and 60.87 for Meissner. Did Meissner do any 3/3 or a 3A or?

Except for Mira Leung I don't see any other skaters who can outskate Tuggy in this program. Time to start pacing the floor like a new father to be :D

[michelle2006]

wow-Kimmie mustve nailed it. Personal best? I hope Fumie had higher PCS.

[ElkGroveGroovin]

Talk about breathing down your neck! Good for Kimmie! She must of hit her 3/3's.

[DramaQueen]

In what universe is Kimmie in the same hemisphere as Fumie in PCS?

[ScrappyTheOwl]

wow-Kimmie mustve nailed it. Personal best? I hope Fumie had higher PCS.

Yeah, Kimmie had a higher Tech. score and Fumie had a higher PCS.

This beats Kimmie's PB by about 3-4 points (it was the 110.something from TEB).

[Katty52]

can someone post the address to the live results. Please

[ScrappyTheOwl]

http://www.isufs.org/results/wc2006/SEG005.HTM

[Katty52]

Sorry I went to another server and it is showing the updates.
Thanks for the link

[michelle2006]

Awe, go Tugba.

[pianohabebi]

I'm proud of Fumie, she's had a history of not so great QR and after the Olympics she was really upset. You go and get 'em girl!

Also good job for Kimmie. I would like to see her develop more artistically (arms?) but I really enjoy her as a person and she does have good skills.

[KwansPrayerWarrior]

when I go there I just get the starting order it isn't showing updates. Is there something I can do??

http://www.isufs.org/results/wc2006

Go to this address, then scroll down to "Ladies", then click on the Qualifying Group A "Starting Order and Classification" and it will give you live results

Katty52, nevermind my link then :lol ....I'm glad you found it

PianoHabebi, you know what I wish? I wish that it was required for every coach/student to teach/learn the "Michelle Kwan Theory On QuantumPhysics". Yeah, I know that is a retarded title LOL!! But I'm serious. Her technique and artistry are out of this world. If they could all just pick up some Michelle pointers, they would all be so much better.

I'm not saying they have to use any of her music, or copy her moves but, just to watch her then "tweak" it to their own style you know?

[michelle2006]

when will this be over-seems like forever.

[Katty52]

I just love this forum so helpful and loving unlike other ones I have visited in the past.

[gratefulmkfan]

103.88 for Suguri.

That's 113.88 for Fumie, and 113.84 for Kimmie. In first and second place respectively.

Oh hail great Com Sci, math guru and beautiful lady, you typo with the best of us.

[michelle2006]

Yeah-you are on a lovely forum, with great ppl.(except for freaks like me who treat MK as their chold when she's older than them!)

[ScrappyTheOwl]

I'm proud of Fumie, she's had a history of not so great QR and after the Olympics she was really upset. You go and get 'em girl!

Don't worry, this was a great QR! She was only 7 points off her PB.

[KwansPrayerWarrior]

I just love this forum so helpful and loving unlike other ones I have visited in the past.

Just remember your loving, neighborhood Scrappy is at your disposal if you need help technically, artistically, if you need help on your college calculus, you know :D

She's like that girl in Ice Princess who says: "I bet you there is a perfect formula" :silly

[ScrappyTheOwl]

That's 113.88 for Fumie, and 113.84 for Kimmie. In first and second place respectively.

Oh hail great Com Sci, math guru and beautiful lady, you typo with the best of us.

Whoops! And only the best of us make have typos ;)

[gratefulmkfan]

Yeah-you are on a lovely forum, with great ppl.(except for freaks like me who treat MK as their chold when she's older than them!)

Honey, you're not a freak. You're too old for dolls, and too smart and young for babies, so you picked a wonderful child, who requires nothing from you but your long-distance love. It's a very smart match-up !

:spiral :FL :spiral

[michelle2006]

awwe greatfulmk fan! You are so sweet.*hugs to you and G*

[lavender]

Well Sasha with 2 falls would get her about 116 and into the lead

[TwinnerA]

Has it always been this way that the two qualifying groups were skated one group in the early afternoon and the other in the evening? It does seem like I have been looking for updates here all day (and now night) long!

[gratefulmkfan]

Whoops! And only the best of us make have typos

But ov coarse :wink !

Lavender we will know soon if your prediction is right. She's second after this ice make is done. For sure I wouldn't bet against it!

TwinnerA, why can't I remember this? I think it's because I would only hang around to see Michelle's group. I seem to recall they happened at the same time, with different judges, but that would require 2 rinks, so my recollection is not accurate!

Michelle2006, you know I love you!

Sasha is on the ice now.

[Katty52]

wwitv (http://wwitv.com/portal.htm?http://wwitv.com/television/index.html)

If you go to this link and click on Italy then click on the 800k by RAI SPORT you can watch the men's short and listen to the Italian's talk and not understand.

[ElkGroveGroovin]

I'm refreshing the results page every 10 seconds hehe

[lillyfly]

Isn't that Kwantum Physics?:P

[MKPerfect6.0]

Just got home...has Sasha skated yet?

[michelle2006]

I never got to use Kwantum PHysics this year. Awwe Michelle!

[ScrappyTheOwl]

Yoshie Onda into 4th with 93.54.

Sasha's up next.

[ElkGroveGroovin]

1 Fumie SUGURI JPN 113.88 57.80 56.08 7.25 6.75 7.00 7.00 7.05 0.00 #8
2 Kimmie MEISSNER USA 113.84 60.80 53.04 6.75 6.40 6.75 6.65 6.60 0.00 #10
3 Sarah MEIER SUI 98.54 49.10 49.44 6.35 6.05 6.20 6.05 6.25 0.00 #9
4 Yoshie ONDA JPN 93.54 48.82 44.72 5.90 5.30 5.60 5.65 5.50 0.00 #11
5 Viktoria PAVUK HUN 85.24 47.48 37.76 4.95 4.55 4.65 4.70 4.75 0.00 #3
6 Amanda NYLANDER SWE 79.16 45.00 34.16 4.45 4.10 4.20 4.35 4.25 0.00 #1
7 Julia SEBESTYEN HUN 79.08 36.04 43.04 5.65 5.10 5.40 5.40 5.35 0.00 #6
8 Michelle CANTU MEX 63.92 32.60 32.32 4.05 3.90 4.00 4.10 4.15 1.00 #2
9 Miriam MANZANO AUS 63.52 32.84 31.68 4.15 3.80 3.90 4.00 3.95 1.00 #4
10 Roxana LUCA ROM 62.10 30.70 32.40 4.20 3.90 4.05 4.05 4.05 1.00 #5
11 Jenna-Anne BUYS RSA 49.38 22.30 30.08 3.85 3.60 3.75 3.85 3.75 3.00 #7

[michelle2006]

Yoshie Onda into 4th with 93.54.

Sasha's up next.

ouch.ehh darnit.

[lavender]

That's good for Yoshie.

[ScrappyTheOwl]

Yeah, only 48.82 TES for Onda. She didn't have any deductions (meaning, no falls) so she must have had some doubles and/or pops.

ETA: Actually, I checked some old protocols and a score around 50 is good for her (maybe with one pop). She has a lot of Level 1 and 2 elements.

[KwansPrayerWarrior]

Well Sasha with 2 falls would get her about 116 and into the lead

And that's what sux about this whole friggin' establishment :grump


Originally Quoted By LillyFly
Isn't that Kwantum Physics?

Yes probably :D But I'm nervous for Tuggy and I'm not thinking straight, I can't see straight, I keep running into walls, you know the drill :lol

[lavender]

Yes probably But I'm nervous for Tuggy and I'm not thinking straight, I can't see straight, I keep running into walls, you know the drill


I'm not going to let myself care like that for no one else. Michelle was it for me.

[KwansPrayerWarrior]

I'm not going to let myself care like that for no one else. Michelle was it for me.

Michelle is the End-All-Be-All for me too. But I have yet to meet/see/hear anyone with a heart of gold like Chelle, save Fumie. Fumie is like Michelle, and so is Tuggy. Tuggy is so down to earth, compassionate, emotional, such a sweet spirit, and is why I love Tuggy like Michelle.

[ElkGroveGroovin]

1 Fumie SUGURI JPN 113.88 57.80 56.08 7.25 6.75 7.00 7.00 7.05 0.00 #8
2 Kimmie MEISSNER USA 113.84 60.80 53.04 6.75 6.40 6.75 6.65 6.60 0.00 #10
3 Sasha COHEN USA 110.36 53.00 59.36 7.50 7.20 7.40 7.45 7.55 2.00 #12
4 Sarah MEIER SUI 98.54 49.10 49.44 6.35 6.05 6.20 6.05 6.25 0.00 #9
5 Yoshie ONDA JPN 93.54 48.82 44.72 5.90 5.30 5.60 5.65 5.50 0.00 #11
6 Viktoria PAVUK HUN 85.24 47.48 37.76 4.95 4.55 4.65 4.70 4.75 0.00 #3
7 Amanda NYLANDER SWE 79.16 45.00 34.16 4.45 4.10 4.20 4.35 4.25 0.00 #1
8 Julia SEBESTYEN HUN 79.08 36.04 43.04 5.65 5.10 5.40 5.40 5.35 0.00 #6
9 Michelle CANTU MEX 63.92 32.60 32.32 4.05 3.90 4.00 4.10 4.15 1.00 #2
10 Miriam MANZANO AUS 63.52 32.84 31.68 4.15 3.80 3.90 4.00 3.95 1.00 #4
11 Roxana LUCA ROM 62.10 30.70 32.40 4.20 3.90 4.05 4.05 4.05 1.00 #5
12 Jenna-Anne BUYS RSA 49.38 22.30 30.08 3.85 3.60 3.75 3.85 3.75 3.00 #7

SASHA had 2 falls again?!

[ScrappyTheOwl]

Sasha goes into 3rd with 110.36 ... 2.00 in deductions.

[gratefulmkfan]

Sasha in third place. Both falls, I suspect. I doubt it's a time violation.

Lavender, isn't it nice to be wrong. I know, she scored too high with 2 falls, and there's still a SP and LP by Saturday, but maybe it's really Fumie's turn. I would like that very much!

[ParalegalMKFan]

I'm not going to let myself care like that for no one else. Michelle was it for me.

Amen and amen to that! At best I'll be a casual observer like the good old days after Michelle stops competing.

[skatefan20]

I'm sure the judges made the deductions for Sasha ahead of time . :D

[MKPerfect6.0]

Thanks BTW to all of you who keep posting the results. :-)

[TwinnerA]

Sasha gets 110 something with 2.0 in deductions. Eek.

[iloveskating]

holy sh** SASHA into 3rd with 2 falls!!!!

[pianohabebi]

Sasha goes into 3rd with 110.36 ... 2.00 in deductions.

Whhhhaaaa??? Oh my lord! She usually has clean QRs!! Wow..

[Katty52]

Amen and amen to that! At best I'll be a casual observer like the good old days after Michelle stops competing.


Count me in on this.

ouch sasha

to much pressure

[michelle2006]

HOLY ****, this is surprising! OMG, so Fumie wins QR, with OUR girl Tugba left?

[DramaQueen]

Sasha would have been been way in the lead without the falls. She is still in this with them.
You would think two falls would put you way behind. Nice to see they didn't hold her up in the sense she isn't in the lead with the falls but the scores are still way too high with 2 falls.

[CordeliaFitzgrld]

Eek, wasn't expecting that from Sasha. She's not really that far back though. Yay! so far for Fumie! Wheee!

[KwansPrayerWarrior]

Sasha in third place.

-2.00 ?? :eek Are you KIDDIN' me??????? Seriously? So Sasha is NOT in first after two falls?? :angel

GO TUGGY GO!!!!! Can someone post what jumps Sasha fell on, or popped or??

Sasha beat Fumie on Components but Fumie STILL FIRST!!!!! :bow


Originally quoted by SkateFan20
I'm sure the judges made the deductions for Sasha ahead of time

:lol

[ScrappyTheOwl]

Whhhhaaaa??? Oh my lord! She usually has clean QRs!! Wow..

Well, she fell last year too. Better fall now than later.

[iloveskating]

She is into 5th overall, 7 pts beind Rochette. By the time it's factored, though, it's only about 2 points.

1 Joannie ROCHETTE CAN 117.12 62.00 55.12 6.95 6.80 6.85 6.90 6.95 0.00 #20
2 Yukari NAKANO JPN 111.14 60.10 51.04 6.60 6.20 6.35 6.35 6.40 0.00 #4

[lavender]

Wow...I don't care how much Sasha falls I'm always shock...especially with a golden opportunity.

I do think she's having a problem with her groin. However it's nice to see that 2 falls won't put her over a pretty clean Fumie. Wow and Kimmie has never been ahead of Sasha.


Well, she fell last year too. Better fall now than later.

It's better now but she had only one fall then and no signs of injury. I do think she was more favored last year internationally than this year.

[KwanPassion]

WOW!!!! Too bad for Sasha, I'm wondering if the lack of training time or possible injury might be a factor for her in these World Championships. But wow, I'm shocked at the low score.

Good job Fumie, Joannie and Kimmie though!

[iloveskating]

well, with the lack of competition here, she can relax and enjoy herself while sitting on the ice, right? (sorry, don't mean to sound bad)

[ScrappyTheOwl]

She is into 5th overall, 7 pts beind Rochette. By the time it's factored, though, it's only about 2 points.

1 Joannie ROCHETTE CAN 117.12 62.00 55.12 6.95 6.80 6.85 6.90 6.95 0.00 #20
2 Yukari NAKANO JPN 111.14 60.10 51.04 6.60 6.20 6.35 6.35 6.40 0.00 #4


Yeah .. I've been keeping a list of factored scores.

Here's the Top 10 for both groups, so far:
1. Joannie Rochette = 29.28
2. Fumie Suguri = 28.47
3. Kimmie Meissner = 28.46
4. Yukari Nakano = 27.79
5. Sasha Cohen = 27.59
6. Emily Hughes = 25.68
7. Carolina Kostner = 25.64
8. Kiira Korpi = 25.44
9. Sarah Meier = 24.64
10. Elena Sokolova = 24.42

[pianohabebi]

Well, she fell last year too. Better fall now than later.

True, true...But, man I'm still surprised. For many reasons, but, rather not babble.

Man, theories now running amuck over at FSU! Kinda interesting lol!

[jaylee]

Sasha behind Kimmie! Now that part is a surprise. And Kimmie and Fumie being virtually tied.

Of course, Sasha hasn't blown her shot at the gold, but I wonder if her press quotes about how she was going to enjoy the competition more because of the less dense field are going to come back to haunt her.

[KwansPrayerWarrior]

Well, she fell last year too. Better fall now than later.

What was Michelle's factored placement at 2005 Worlds during her QR? Does anyone remember where she was in her group?

[ScrappyTheOwl]

What was Michelle's factored placement at 2005 Worlds during her QR? Does anyone remember where she was in her group?

Michelle was 5th in her group, and her factored score, 24.99, was 7th Overall (both groups).

[lavender]

Sasha in third place. Both falls, I suspect. I doubt it's a time violation.

Lavender, isn't it nice to be wrong. I know, she scored too high with 2 falls, and there's still a SP and LP by Saturday, but maybe it's really Fumie's turn. I would like that very much!

Yes I love being wrong sometimes. I too would love it to be Fumie's turn.

What if Joannie wins...that would be pretty crazy but I would be happy for her also since I don't think a lady from Canada has reach the top of the world podium. Well not since I've been watching skating.

Well I agree that Sasha still has a chance since her short is pretty hard to beat.

[KwansPrayerWarrior]

well, with the lack of competition here, she can relax and enjoy herself while sitting on the ice, right? (sorry, don't mean to sound bad)

:D That's just wrong :D


Originally quoted by JayLee
but I wonder if her press quotes about how she was going to enjoy the competition more because of the less dense field are going to come back to haunt her.

Probably. When DOESN'T her foot go into her mouth when she thinks more highly of herself than she ought to? That's a dangerous thing to do. Gets you in trouble everytime.


Originally quoted by PianoHabebi
Man, theories now running amuck over at FSU! Kinda interesting lol!

Do tell :D

[MKPerfect6.0]

How important is the qualifying.
(Sorry, I know I should probably now this already but...) It does count towards your overall score right?